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William Jarson Clifford
« on: Tuesday 01 January 19 15:12 GMT (UK) »
Im doing a lil work on a friends tree that seems to have got a bit messed up, and Im getting a bit mixed up Myself trying to un ravel it lol...

The part im trying at the minute is of a William Jarson Clifford, b according to one census in Bermondsey and another as middlesex...

I see him in 1891 census in prison in Kingston upon Hull
in 1901 he is with his wife Ann Hughes in St Sepulchre-without-Newgate (his name is misctranscribed there as Clippard instead of Clifford)

1911 finds him and wife in Snowhill EC (not sure what that means... earls court?) London...

he marries Ann Hughes in 1883 and I am trying to establish her correct parents, birth etc too...

she appears in censuses as born a 1861 cambridgeshire, and 1911 has her (married to w j) as born Bourn, Cambridgeshire...

I can see a marriage for thyem both which shows his father as a William Clifford and hers as a John Hughes..

so now Im trying to establish... william j's birth, and his parents.. and the same for ann

anyone? anything?
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Re: William Jarson Clifford
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 01 January 19 15:25 GMT (UK) »
1871 with father William and mother Ellen.  William jnr age 13 bn Bermondsy
RG10/640 f119 p32
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Re: William Jarson Clifford
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 01 January 19 15:44 GMT (UK) »
Possible birth record -

William Clifford
q2 1858 St Mary Magdalen, Bermondsey, Surrey
Vol 1d Page 99
Mother's maiden name - Burke

The civil parish on the 1871 is St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey, so this could be a link.

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Re: William Jarson Clifford
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 01 January 19 15:49 GMT (UK) »
1861 -

Wm Clifford   widower 36 b. Cork, Ireland
Wm Clifford   3 b. Bermondsey
Margaret Fitzgerald   step dr 15

RG 9 Piece 319 Folio 133 Page 48

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Re: William Jarson Clifford
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 01 January 19 16:13 GMT (UK) »
oh well done!!

I'll look through them, but.. in the way her tree has gotten mixed, she does have a possible william.. of cork too, also, that middle name of Fitzgerald features a few times.. so this sounds the right line...

any luck w Ann Hughes?
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Re: William Jarson Clifford
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 01 January 19 16:16 GMT (UK) »

I see him in 1891 census in prison in Kingston upon Hull
in 1901 he is with his wife Ann Hughes in St Sepulchre-without-Newgate (his name is misctranscribed there as Clippard instead of Clifford)


1901 his wife is Kate (age 40 bn Cambridgeshire)
Marriage has her as Kate age 22, her father John was a Farmer

In 1891 they are living next to David Hughes age 53 occ Boot maker born Bourn, Cambridgshire
RG12/147 f16 p26.  Kate is listed as Eliza also born Bourn

Davids Dtr Gertrude has mmn Whitlet on birth reg

Possible marriage for parents of Gertrude
Marriages Dec qtr 1860 
Hughes    David       
Whittel    Elizabeth Mary       
Caxton    3b   1006   
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Re: William Jarson Clifford
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 01 January 19 16:31 GMT (UK) »
oh sorry, yes she is Kate (my friends tree had her as an ann at first thats why i said that.. accidentally ) lol
Smith, Tolley, Griffiths,
Monaghan, Richards, Clark, Clarke,
Brazier, Filben, Fibben,Filbin
Sherdon, Churden,Sheldon
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, Bilston, Kent, London, Middlesex

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Re: William Jarson Clifford
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 01 January 19 16:32 GMT (UK) »
ahhhh that could answer another mix up in her tree? she also had an eliza ann as a possible wife (instead of kate)
Smith, Tolley, Griffiths,
Monaghan, Richards, Clark, Clarke,
Brazier, Filben, Fibben,Filbin
Sherdon, Churden,Sheldon
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, Bilston, Kent, London, Middlesex

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Re: William Jarson Clifford
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 01 January 19 16:43 GMT (UK) »
Possible birth -

Eliza Ann Hughes
q2 1861 Caxton
Vol 3b Page 467
Mother's maiden name Whittet

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