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Re: How close to the 1 July 1837 date do you have a B/M/D?
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 06 January 19 17:38 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Melbell on Thursday 03 January 19 19:43 GMT (UK)
I have wondered about this before in respect of marriages - surely the first marriages would not be registered for at least 22 days since the couple would have to give notice or have banns read and then wait for the prescribed period before the ceremony could take place?  Unless the marriages were by licence, I suppose?

Melbell

Not sure what you mean?  Take 2 couples planning a church wedding (after banns) in the summer of 1837:

Couple A have their banns duly called during June 1837 and marry on 30 June 1837.  Their marriage is not subject to civil registration.

Couple B have their banns duly called during June 1837 and marry on 1 July 1837.  Their marriage is subject to civil registration.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: How close to the 1 July 1837 date do you have a B/M/D?
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 06 January 19 17:43 GMT (UK) »
I looked at Ancestry - just put in the date of 1 July 1837 for a marriage and got more than 201,000 entries - NO, I have not checked them all.  :-X
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
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Re: How close to the 1 July 1837 date do you have a B/M/D?
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 06 January 19 17:49 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: BumbleB on Sunday 06 January 19 17:43 GMT (UK)
I looked at Ancestry - just put in the date of 1 July 1837 for a marriage and got more than 201,000 entries - NO, I have not checked them all.  :-X

That’s about the annual number nowadays* - I suspect your results span a significant range of dates :)

*in England & Wales.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: How close to the 1 July 1837 date do you have a B/M/D?
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 06 January 19 17:51 GMT (UK) »
I'm absolutely sure that there are at least duplications, both parties, BUT the first page at least were for marriages on 1 July 1837.  And NO I am not going to verify them all  :-X :-X :-X :-X
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
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Re: How close to the 1 July 1837 date do you have a B/M/D?
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 06 January 19 17:59 GMT (UK) »
The Registrar General reported that a total of 111,481 marriages were registered in the first year of civil registration (1 July 1837 to 30 June 1838):

https://www.jstor.org/stable/2337712?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: How close to the 1 July 1837 date do you have a B/M/D?
« Reply #14 on: Monday 07 January 19 17:49 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I realised after I'd posted that my point would not be valid for CofE marriages, only civil marriage ceremonies or those in Non-Conformist churches (although I understand that there weren't many of these for quite a time because people didn't realise you could do so).

Thanks for pointing out the error, which I hadn't bothered to correct myself!

Melbell  :-[
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