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Re: Toll Houses and turnpikes
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 03 January 19 16:16 GMT (UK) »
The 1911 census lists the Toll House between  Rownham farm, and Field Barn Farm. This appears to there is a building in that position https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=51.4940&lon=-2.3048&layers=6&right=BingHyb
Now derelict https://goo.gl/maps/ChoWwvyipfQ2

or possibly could be https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=51.4946&lon=-2.2943&layers=168&b=1

The Cross Roads in the sequence  Cross Roads, Ebbsdown Farm. Rownham farm, Toll House, Field Barn Farm, will be https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=18&lat=51.4975&lon=-2.3249&layers=168&b=1

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Re: Toll Houses and turnpikes
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 03 January 19 17:37 GMT (UK) »
She is Hannah England, with husband George, daughter Hannah and grandson William Woodman in the 1851, and she is on her own there in 1861.

Actually she appears to be  there with
John Hall, h[ea]d of f[amily], mar, 61, farmer of four acres, Bristol Gloucestershire
Hanah Hall, wife, mar, 51, Little Sodbury do
Sarah Jane Hall, grand dau, un, 5, West Kington Wilts.
RG 9 / 1280/ 70/ 1

This is the same John and Hannah enumerated at Kington Wick in 1871 and Hannah is a toll gate keeper.

1871 census
R10/1895/26/13

The final entry on the page is Westfield Road.
The next entry, on page 14, is Kington Wick.
John Hall, head, m, mar, 70, ag lab, Bristol
Hannah do, wife, mar, 65, toll gate keeper,

Two households within the toll house in 1861? There are the two little lines separating her from the Halls.
Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland: Gilligan/Wall/Meagher/Maher/Gray/O'Hara/Corroon (various spellings)
Bristol: Woodman/James/Derrick
Bristol/Somerset: Saunders/Wilmot
Gloucestershire:Woodman/Mathews/Tandy/Stinchcombe/Marten/Thompson
Wiltshire: Mathews
Carmarthen: Thomas, Lewis
Australia: Mary Lewis, transportee, married Henry Brown - what happened to her?

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Re: Toll Houses and turnpikes
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 03 January 19 17:40 GMT (UK) »
My apologies, you are quite right. I can't see straight  :-[

So, they are right next door to her in 1861, and Hannah is toll gate keeper in 1871.
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Re: Toll Houses and turnpikes
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 06 January 19 13:40 GMT (UK) »
Just going back to my earlier post

In the District Descriptions in both 1851 and 1861 it says Westfield Road and Toll house

We need to find Westfield Road.

Just flinging this into the mix:

1871 census
R10/1895/26/13

The final entry on the page is Westfield Road.
The next entry, on page 14, is Kington Wick.
John Hall, head, m, mar, 70, ag lab, Bristol
Hannah do, wife, mar, 65, toll gate keeper,

The Toll house is also mentioned in association with Westfield Road in the District description in 1881.

I would imagine that Westfield Road has some relation to (the area around?) Westfield Farm, to the north of West Kington village centre, though the farm itself and the road running past it appear to be in the parish of Nettleton.

I also find the 1871 census entry rather puzzling. All the other census entries seem to relate to the north or west side of the village centre, yet Kington Wick is to the south-east. So I wonder - could John have been an ag lab in tied accommodation at Kington Wick (because he was working there at the time), while she went over to look after the toll gate on the other side of the village each day? I haven't seen any evidence of one in the Kington Wick area.

Did toll gates close at night, or was there someone there to open them and collect tolls 24/7?
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Toll Houses and turnpikes
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 06 January 19 16:48 GMT (UK) »
Vision of Britain   http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk

Search for "West Kington"
Click on map
Select first map in list (1805-1869)

On the 1830 map returned West Kington is marked as West Keynton. Turnpikes are identified by the key "TP".

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Re: Toll Houses and turnpikes
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 06 January 19 17:17 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for finding that and pointing it out. Unfortunately I can't see any turnpikes in West Kington, though there are some marked in Marshfield and on the main road through Tormarton.

So if there were any in West Kington, perhaps they were established after 1830. The next map I've found is from the 1880s, by which time turnpikes aren't marked any more. Had they been abolished by then?
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Toll Houses and turnpikes
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 06 January 19 17:17 GMT (UK) »
I couldn’t see a TP but I’m using my tablet
Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland: Gilligan/Wall/Meagher/Maher/Gray/O'Hara/Corroon (various spellings)
Bristol: Woodman/James/Derrick
Bristol/Somerset: Saunders/Wilmot
Gloucestershire:Woodman/Mathews/Tandy/Stinchcombe/Marten/Thompson
Wiltshire: Mathews
Carmarthen: Thomas, Lewis
Australia: Mary Lewis, transportee, married Henry Brown - what happened to her?

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Re: Toll Houses and turnpikes
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 06 January 19 17:19 GMT (UK) »
According to this there was one in Nettleton, but out of use in 1830

http://www.turnpikes.org.uk/Tollhouses%20of%20Wiltshire.htm
Mullingar, Westmeath Ireland: Gilligan/Wall/Meagher/Maher/Gray/O'Hara/Corroon (various spellings)
Bristol: Woodman/James/Derrick
Bristol/Somerset: Saunders/Wilmot
Gloucestershire:Woodman/Mathews/Tandy/Stinchcombe/Marten/Thompson
Wiltshire: Mathews
Carmarthen: Thomas, Lewis
Australia: Mary Lewis, transportee, married Henry Brown - what happened to her?

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Re: Toll Houses and turnpikes
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 06 January 19 17:22 GMT (UK) »
According to this there was one in Nettleton, but out of use in 1830

http://www.turnpikes.org.uk/Tollhouses%20of%20Wiltshire.htm

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