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Henry frude/Froud marriage about 1885-1895 approx
« on: Thursday 03 January 19 12:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,

In my tree I have a Henry Frude/Froud bapt. 1865 Compton, Berks (s/o Joseph & Mary Ann) who I thought had married a Ruth Brunsdon in 1887.

But the marriage cert. of Henry Frude/Ruth Brunsdon clearly shows his father as George Frude.
Unless an incorrect name has been used.
I cannot find a George Frude other than a bapt.. in 1888

Can anyone please help in finding another marriage for Henry.

Many thanks in advance

Alan
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Re: Henry frude/Froud marriage about 1885-1895 approx
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 03 January 19 13:59 GMT (UK) »
1871 census of the 1864/1865 Harry Froud:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KD8C-Y8M  Grazeley is close to Compton.


With a marriage between George Froud & Sarah Ann Attwater in Q4 1862 in Wokingham Berkshire.

Pheno

Added:What evidence do you have for Joseph/Mary Ann as parents of your Henry Frude/Froud?
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Re: Henry frude/Froud marriage about 1885-1895 approx
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 03 January 19 14:06 GMT (UK) »
Here is link to 1881 census of a different Henry Froud with parents Joseph & Mary.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27H-WN58

My guess is that it is not this one who married Ruth but the other one but it depends which one fits into your tree.

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Re: Henry frude/Froud marriage about 1885-1895 approx
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 03 January 19 14:10 GMT (UK) »
There are definitely two Henry/Harry Frude/Froud/Frood's around as there is this 1871 census for another one with parents Joseph & Mary as opposed to my first link of a Harry with parents George/Sarah Ann.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFXL-WK8

I think you have picked up the wrong Harry/Henry to this Ruth.

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Re: Henry frude/Froud marriage about 1885-1895 approx
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 03 January 19 14:20 GMT (UK) »
The sons of George and Sarah, no daughters:

FROUD, HARRY EDWARD mmn ATTWATER
GRO Reference: 1863  D Quarter in WOKINGHAM  Volume 02C  Page 377

FROUD, JOHN  WILLIAM mmn ATTWATER
GRO Reference: 1866  M Quarter in WOKINGHAM  Volume 02C  Page 394

FROUD, JOSEPH mmn ATTWATER
GRO Reference: 1868  S Quarter in WOKINGHAM  Volume 02C  Page 362

FROUD, WALTER mmn ATTWATER
GRO Reference: 1871  S Quarter in WOKINGHAM  Volume 02C  Page 365

FROUD, FREDERICK  CHARLES mmn ATTWATER
GRO Reference: 1873  D Quarter in WOKINGHAM  Volume 02C  Page 369
 
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Re: Henry frude/Froud marriage about 1885-1895 approx
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 03 January 19 15:06 GMT (UK) »
Given that their 1st child has been named George. I think it supports the notion that Henry’s father may have been George, but then why no Sarah?:

1891 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:71CF-D3Z

1901 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XS3P-8FY

1911 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7LD-3BF

FRUDE, GEORGE mmn BRUNSDON
GRO Reference: 1888  S Quarter in WANTAGE  Volume 02C  Page 295

FRUDE, NELLIE mmn BRUNSDON
GRO Reference: 1889  D Quarter in WANTAGE  Volume 02C  Page 306

FRUDE, MARY  ANN mmn BRUNSDON
GRO Reference: 1892  S Quarter in WANTAGE  Volume 02C  Page 291

FRUDE, RUTH mmn BRUNSDON
GRO Reference: 1894  J Quarter in BRADFIELD  Volume 02C  Page 313

FRUDE, KATE mmn BRUMDON
GRO Reference: 1896  D Quarter in BRADFIELD  Volume 02C  Page 337

FRUDE, ELSIE mmn BRUNSDON
GRO Reference: 1900  S Quarter in BRADFIELD  Volume 02C  Page 325

FRUDE, JESSIE  EVA mmn BRUNSDON
GRO Reference: 1901  S Quarter in BRADFIELD  Volume 02C  Page 327

FRUDE, HENRY mmn BRUNSDON
GRO Reference: 1904  J Quarter in BRADFIELD  Volume 02C  Page 325

FRUDE, DANIEL mmn BRUNSDON
GRO Reference: 1905  D Quarter in BRADFIELD  Volume 02C  Page 321

Grandson:

FRUDE, ALBERT  WILLIAM WELLS    - 
GRO Reference: 1911  J Quarter in BRADFIELD  Volume 02C  Page 312

It is a bit of a dilemma, isn’t it?

I can see why you thought his folks were Joseph and Mary.

Then they have a son George, no Joseph and daughter Mary, no Sarah. So, no help there.

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Re: Henry frude/Froud marriage about 1885-1895 approx
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 03 January 19 15:58 GMT (UK) »
The other Harry Froud, son of George & Sarah Ann Attwater registered as Harry Edward Stroud married in Mar 1892 qtr in Wandsworth, London to Lucy Aldersey who were subsequently having children in Wandsworth.

I think there is possibly an error in your tree in that if you need the Henry Frude who married Ruth Brunsden then you need to show his parents as Joseph & Mary  or .....

if you need the Harry Froud with parents George & Sarah Ann then he married Lucy Aldersey.

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Re: Henry frude/Froud marriage about 1885-1895 approx
« Reply #7 on: Friday 04 January 19 00:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Pheno & jamjar,

Many thanks for all your help;

Pheno;
What evidence do you have for Joseph/Mary Ann as parents of your Henry Frude/Froud?

Listed in the records for Compton St.Mary, Berks as; 4-6-1865 Henry s/o Joseph & Mary Frude, Lab.

My dilema is that the marriage cert of Henry Froude, 22, bac, Labr, of Compton s/o George to Ruth Brunsdon 22-10-1887 Aldworth.

The other Harry Froud you listed, was bapt.. 8-11-1863 Grazeley, Berks as Harry Edward Froud s/o George, Carpenter, & Sarah Ann and from the many images I've just downloaded he became a Butler, married Lucy Aldersey
in 1892 and eventually emigrated to Canada in 1921

Jamjar;
Thanks for listing those children, I think I did have most of them before removing them from my tree.

Its a big problem!!

Alan
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Re: Henry frude/Froud marriage about 1885-1895 approx
« Reply #8 on: Friday 04 January 19 10:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,

Well - I'm a little confused to say the least.

I know I'm repeating some of the info I have but following the leads already given, I have;

Harry Edward Froud  born Grazeley, Berks 8-11-1863 (s/o George & Sarah Ann (nee Attwater), carpenter),
he goes on to marry Lucy Aldersey 4-2-1892 Wandsworth, London and lists his father as George Froud, Wheelwright. Harry  is a Butler. 
In 1901 Bognor, Sussex he is still a Butler.
In 1911 Harry is not with his family of Lucy & 3 children but appears in 1911 in St.George Hanover Sq. London as a Domestic Butler.

This family of Harry Edward, Lucy, Dorothy Lucy & Edward eventually emigrate to Canada in 1921 Agnes born1893 follows them with her husband and son.

On the other hand; Henry Frood (1871 s/o Joseph & Mary) bapt. 4-6-1865 married a Ruth Brunsdon in Aldworth 22-10-1887 lists his father as George but the registers record Joseph & Mary Ann.

Now is it possible there may be a third Henry Froud in the area? If there is I haven't found one yet.

If anyone can add to this conundrum please do.

Alan
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