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In search of Meleanor
« on: Thursday 03 January 19 12:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi there

I'm hoping someone cleverer than me might be able to help me in locating my 3rd Great-Grandmother Meleanor WATTS (1828 - 1890)

According to census returns she was born in Creeting, Suffolk c. 1828 and I have her death certificate which states she died in 1890 in Holborn.

She was married to John Watts (born c. 1811 in St. Peters, Suffolk / death unknown). Although both originally from Suffolk, all the records I have relating to them since are in Middlesex (mostly Shoreditch).

I am descended from their daughter Clara Matilda Watts (1873 - 1953) and on her birth certificate it gives Meleanor's maiden name as what looks like PRIME. However I have never had any joy locating her using this name.

To try and explore this further, I ordered birth certificates for two of Meleanor's older children: Meleanor Eliza (b. 1848) and Gerald Massey (b. 1852). Interestingly Meleanor Eliza turns out to be registered under WILLIAMS and not Watts. Meleanor Snr gives her name as Williams, formerly LOCKWOOD. The father is named as John Williams.

Gerald Massey is a Watts with John Watts named as the father. On this certificate Meleanor gives her name as Watts, formerly Lockwood.

I think Meleanor Watts/Prime/Williams/Lockwood is the same person but I'm struggling to find a marriage record for her to John Watts under any of these surnames. My guess is that John Williams died and she married John Watts at some point between the birth of baby Meleanor and Gerald.

Obviously Meleanor is not the most common name - her children all seemingly name one of their daughters Meleanor so there's more of them in the latter records - but the original is still proving very difficult to trace!

If anyone can help locate a possible marriage record for John and Meleanor I would be very grateful of the help.

In case it's useful, their other children that I've managed to find are: Arthur (1854), Jane (1857), William (1865) and John Page (1870) - all born in Middlesex.

Thanks!
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Re: In search of Meleanor
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 03 January 19 13:09 GMT (UK) »
There is a Melina Prime in London in 1841 bn c1828 parents William & Eliza
HO107 /727 bk9 f23 p40

William Prime   35   
Eliza   Prime   25   
Melina      13   
Jane                7   
Charles      4   
None of them born in county
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Re: In search of Meleanor
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 03 January 19 13:14 GMT (UK) »
In 1851 the surname is HEADLEY - always good to find comedians in the family!!    ;D ;D ;D

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGFB-5JV

Class: HO107; Piece: 1517; Folio: 132; Page: 61

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Re: In search of Meleanor
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 03 January 19 13:14 GMT (UK) »
Marriage
William Prime
Eliza Lockwood
12 Sep 1832
Creeting, All Saints, Suffolk, England
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Re: In search of Meleanor
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 03 January 19 13:19 GMT (UK) »
Deleted - 1838 baptism for an eliza in Creeting, wrong date  ::)
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Re: In search of Meleanor
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 03 January 19 13:23 GMT (UK) »
She was born c1828?  That would explain the use of both PRIME and LOCKWOOD if she was born prior to that marriage.

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Re: In search of Meleanor
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 03 January 19 13:26 GMT (UK) »
I think she was possibly baptised as Leah Lockwood - mother Eliza
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NKSX-PMW

Leah Lockwood
Christening 16 Mar 1828
CREETING ST MARY, SUFFOLK
Mother   Eliza Lockwood
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Re: In search of Meleanor
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 03 January 19 13:48 GMT (UK) »
Deleted, as baptism already found
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Re: In search of Meleanor
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 03 January 19 13:52 GMT (UK) »
Ok so this is both brilliant and annoying ha!

I guess that assuming Leah Lockwood is Meleanor Prime, we can't assume that William Prime is actually her father given that she was born 4 years before her mother's marriage.

Would it also then follow that her surname at the time of marrying John Watts was most likely to have been Williams?

I've not been able to find a Williams marriage with any variations of her Christian name that matches a John Watts marriage record on the BMD register.
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