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Re: How can someone alive + still in UK be listed on 192 in 2005 but not now?
« Reply #27 on: Monday 07 January 19 17:01 GMT (UK) »
I was surprised & chuffed to find a 6xGGF in a poll book 1780s.

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Re: How can someone alive + still in UK be listed on 192 in 2005 but not now?
« Reply #28 on: Monday 07 January 19 17:07 GMT (UK) »

How far back does it go?

How can I see pre-2000 data?

Some electoral registers go back to the early 19th Century and before. For eg, there are online registers for Plymouth from 1780 (very restricted electoral group, I would think!)

These can be seen on Ancestry and  FindMyPast and by visiting  local archives

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Re: How can someone alive + still in UK be listed on 192 in 2005 but not now?
« Reply #29 on: Monday 07 January 19 17:11 GMT (UK) »
infact scrap that

I type in a relative Lived in "Leeds" and catalogue:

All West Yorkshire, England, Electoral Registers, 1840-1962

And I get:

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Re: How can someone alive + still in UK be listed on 192 in 2005 but not now?
« Reply #30 on: Monday 07 January 19 17:14 GMT (UK) »
If you are in the UK, then perhaps visit your local library to see what access they have.  A lot of libraries have access to Ancestry and/or FindMyPast.



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Re: How can someone alive + still in UK be listed on 192 in 2005 but not now?
« Reply #31 on: Monday 07 January 19 17:15 GMT (UK) »
Many Poll Books available on SoG Online from the Society of Genealogists.
Simons Barrett Jaffray Waugh Langdale Heugh Meade Garnsey Evans Vazie Mountcure Glascodine Parish Peard Smart Dobbie Sinclair....
in Stirlingshire, Roxburghshire; Bucks; Devon; Somerset; Northumberland; Carmarthenshire; Glamorgan

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Re: How can someone alive + still in UK be listed on 192 in 2005 but not now?
« Reply #32 on: Monday 07 January 19 17:27 GMT (UK) »
Not sure whether you live in Leeds - but if so you have a double-helping  :D  Central Library, in that wonderful building, or the WYAS building.  I could be very, very jealous  :)
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
Archbell - anywhere, any date
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Milner - WRY
Appleyard - WRY

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Re: How can someone alive + still in UK be listed on 192 in 2005 but not now?
« Reply #33 on: Monday 07 January 19 18:56 GMT (UK) »
Until November 2001 local authorities were free to sell the Electoral Roll to commercial companies. This changed following a legal challenge by an individual who objected to his data on the Electoral Roll being used for direct marketing purposes. Legislation was enacted that resulted in two Electoral Rolls - the full version and the edited version.
The full Electoral Roll can be used only for electoral and credit reference purposes. The edited version is available to any company for any purpose but excludes those people who opt-out of having their information sold to third parties.
The legislation only applies to Electoral Rolls published after 16/11/01.
The 2002 Electoral Roll data held on 192.com, is based on the 2001 electoral register and is the last full roll available before that date and is not covered by the new legislation.

See https://www.gov.uk/electoral-register/opt-out-of-the-open-register

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Rather than "free to sell" it was "no option but to sell" (I was a LA Data Protection Officer at the time). Even worse, it was no option but to sell dirt cheap.
As has been pointed out, searching was traditionally wading through printed copies but then some companies realised that they could buy copies of registers for peanuts, pay peanuts to people in the far east to do the data entry and sell the information for a fortune.
As well as being annoying for all of us who were spammed it was annoying for government (local and national) who had spent a lot of taxpayers money on creating the registers and were seeing the companies reap the financial benefit for doing virtually nothing.

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Re: How can someone alive + still in UK be listed on 192 in 2005 but not now?
« Reply #34 on: Monday 07 January 19 19:46 GMT (UK) »
Not sure whether you live in Leeds - but if so you have a double-helping  :D  Central Library, in that wonderful building, or the WYAS building.  I could be very, very jealous  :)

great point, they have all the polling books stored there for free access. want me to check anything? private message if so

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Re: How can someone alive + still in UK be listed on 192 in 2005 but not now?
« Reply #35 on: Monday 07 January 19 20:27 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks for the offer - I've got the ones I need - SO FAR - but I'll bear it in mind.  :) :)
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
Archbell - anywhere, any date
Kendall - WRY
Milner - WRY
Appleyard - WRY