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Re: Griffith Evans family Carnarvonshire/Merionethshire
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 15 January 19 19:49 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Carole,

I thought while I was waiting Iíd have a look at the 1939 census and see if I could work out why the family moved to Portsmouth from Cardiff.

If I have it correct:
Griffith died in 1938 in Portsmouth
Ellen is widowed and living with a married couple with surname Waterloo in Portsmouth
Oliver is a Royal Marine in Portsmouth

I cannot find Richard on the 1939 census, nor can I find any marriage record. I do however have his birthdate as  7th Aug 1908 and that he died in Portsmouth in 1998

It would seem logical that Oliver moved for training and the family followed but is there any way of verifying this? I thought that Richards occupation on the 1939 census may help but I havenít yet found it.

Shosh

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Re: Griffith Evans family Carnarvonshire/Merionethshire
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 16 January 19 17:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I think itís unlikely you will ever find out for sure why they moved.  It could have been because of Griffithís work rather than anything to do with the boys.

I canít find Richard in 1939 either but he died 16.3.1998 and left a will

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Re: Griffith Evans family Carnarvonshire/Merionethshire
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 31 January 19 12:38 GMT (UK) »
Hiya,

The certificate finally arrived this morning.

Griffiths father = Evan Evans, plasterer
Ellenís father = Richard Davies,slate quarrier.

Witnesses: Evan R Evans and Mary Davies.

This looks as though your 1881 census was correct.  Especially with Evan as a witness as he is an older brother on the census.

Thank you!


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Re: Griffith Evans family Carnarvonshire/Merionethshire
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 31 January 19 13:08 GMT (UK) »
Do you want me to look for Evan/Catherine etc or for Ellen in earlier censuses
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Re: Griffith Evans family Carnarvonshire/Merionethshire
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 31 January 19 13:39 GMT (UK) »
Hiya,

I have Evan on the 1851-1871 censusí (I think). Parents Lewis and Jane.

I canít find his marriage to Catherine which must have been between 1871 and 1874.
I also canít find his death which must have been before 1905 as he is deceased on marriage cert.

I have their children from 1881 as Evan R, Mary Jane, Lewis and of course Griffith. There may also be Jane and John but Iím not sure if I am looking at the correct censusí as I am a bit lost when it comes to Welsh geography and the likely distances to move between areas!

If you have time and are willing, all help is appreciated! I shall carry on searching too.

Thanks,
Shosh

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Re: Griffith Evans family Carnarvonshire/Merionethshire
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 31 January 19 13:48 GMT (UK) »
Will do - have to go out now but will look when I get back in a couple of hours
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Re: Griffith Evans family Carnarvonshire/Merionethshire
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 31 January 19 19:28 GMT (UK) »
Going back to the 1881 entry - the children's birthplace is covered by the Pwllheli reg district and GRO search shows Catherine's maiden name as Williams (very helpful!!)

Lewis Dec qtr 1873
Mary Jane Sept qtr 1875
Evan March qtr 1878
Griffith March qtr 1880

There are a number of Evan Evans/Catherine Williams marriages but this one fits the area and the timing of Lewis's birth

Marriages December qtr 1871   
Evans    Evan         Pwllheli    11b   797    
WILLIAMS    Catherine         Pwllheli    11b   797
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Re: Griffith Evans family Carnarvonshire/Merionethshire
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 31 January 19 19:45 GMT (UK) »
You are so good at this!

Thank you!

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Re: Griffith Evans family Carnarvonshire/Merionethshire
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 31 January 19 20:02 GMT (UK) »
This is the 1891 entry and Catherine is a widow.  All shown as b Penmorfa

Catherine Evans 39
Griffith 11
John 8
Elizabeth 4

Take your pick - 2 deaths.  The RD in 1881 was Festiniog but in 1891 it's Bangor.  There are no deaths matching his age in Festiniog  - Evan was 30 in 1881

Elizabeth was born 1886/1887 so I searched 1884-1891

Deaths September qtr 1886   
Evans    Evan    36    Bangor    11b   320

Deaths March qtr 1888   
EVANS    Evan    38    Bangor    11b   403
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