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GRO question
« on: Friday 04 January 19 22:17 GMT (UK) »
I am going to order a certificate and the one I am interested has two entries (see attachments). Does anyone know what the word occasional means on the first entry. I see that there is just a page difference between the two (page 64 and page 65). Thanks for any insight you can give me.
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Re: GRO question
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 05 January 19 09:45 GMT (UK) »
Occasional copy forms are submitted to correct mistakes in the original entry (this is still current practice). I expect the marginal entry refers to that.


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Re: GRO question
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 05 January 19 10:04 GMT (UK) »
The published listing has it as 1D page 65.  No marginal entry or asterisk, etc.
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Re: GRO question
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 05 January 19 10:29 GMT (UK) »
‘Occasional Copy’ (as in the above extract from the GRO index) shows that a new, corrected entry was made in the register after the original registration had been written out and signed.

An error made during the registration process would be handled differently, as a correction would be written into the register, keyed in the margin as a numbered error, and initialled by the registrar.

That is my understanding, but I daresay AntonyMMM will be along in due course.


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Re: GRO question
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 05 January 19 10:47 GMT (UK) »
This for ref comparison on the standard GRO index

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Re: GRO question
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 05 January 19 15:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mike

you may want to update your profile with a new email address, there must have been problems in the past for the wording in your avatar space to have been amended.

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Re: GRO question
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 05 January 19 18:06 GMT (UK) »
Thanks so much everyone for the information. So it sounds like I should probably order both copies or Gadget, is your screenshot meaning that I could order the one on page 65? Sorry for the follow-up question!
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Re: GRO question
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 05 January 19 20:55 GMT (UK) »
You could  order the p65 one and see if there are amendments or, maybe, contact them and explain. I've found the staff very helpful in the past.

As Bookbox suggests, AntonyMMM would know. Maybe PM him and link him to this thread  :)

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Re: GRO question
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 06 January 19 09:20 GMT (UK) »
As said above, an Occasional Copy is a later submission sent to GRO relating to the entry, almost certainly after a correction of some sort.

A correction doesn't create a new entry (unlike a re-registration), it just amends an existing one so there aren't two different records, just two entries in the GRO index. 

Corrections should be shown on any later certificate issued, so it shouldn't really matter which reference you use (but no need to order both - you will just get two copies of the same thing).