Help find my grandmother’s birth record in County Wexford

[josey]

Struggling to find the censuses referred to

Is this her death? If so should be on 1939.
Deaths Mar 1941   
Armstrong    Norah    67    Manchester    8d   218

ADDED: Aha at last
1901 RG13; Piece: 3724; Folio: 61; Page: 14
George Armstrong   26 furniture salesman b Manchester
Norah Armstrong   26 b Ireland
Norah G Armstrong   2 b Salford

and 1891 G12; Piece: 3214; Folio: 45; Page: 1
William Boswell   46
Emily Boswell   46
Sarah [sic] Sullivan   17
Sarah Jane Salter   19

[heywood]

From https://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/Ireland-civil-registration.html
the sub registration districts in Wexford are
Enniscorthy, Gorey, New Ross, Shillelagh, Wexford.

Looking just at these sub districts on irishgenealogy.ie 1870 - 1876 gives only one of these [in sub district of New Ross 9 Feb 1872, name Honora, but father Thomas is a farmer]
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03245/2189164.pdf
in Knockroe, mother Mary formerly Doran.

PS Welcome from me too 

ADDED: have looked for Agnes in same district with no success 1855 - 1880.

Thomas is still a Farmer on his death
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1889/06139/4753785.pdf

Son Patrick is informant and is in census in 1901 and 1911 - farming.

[LH]

I had a look for Sullivan Publicans in the 1901 Wexford census and found only Patrick Sullivan in Dumnain (New Ross District), along with wife Anastasia and son Thomas, 4 months old. See below:-

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wexford/Dunmain/Dunmain/1799685/

Looking for the birth of baby Thomas, I read he's actually called Thomas JOSEPH Sullivan and his mother is listed as Stasia, formerly Hart.  See below:-

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1901/01962/1757091.pdf

Could the recently married Patrick Sullivan have taken over the pub that was mentioned earlier?

A lot of coincidences here.

Will have to delve deeper.

Cheers

L

[heywood]

I had looked at him and wondered about him too.
His father was also Thomas, a farmer.
If I have the right one, there are baptisms for Patrick and siblings in 1860s.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03581/2320338.pdf

[Forestier]

"I had a look for Sullivan Publicans in the 1901 Wexford census and found only Patrick Sullivan in Dumnain (New Ross District), along with wife Anastasia and son Thomas, 4 months old. See below:-

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wexford/Dunmain/Dunmain/1799685/

Looking for the birth of baby Thomas, I read he's actually called Thomas JOSEPH Sullivan and his mother is listed as Stasia, formerly Hart.  See below:-

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1901/01962/1757091.pdf

Could the recently married Patrick Sullivan have taken over the pub that was mentioned earlier?

A lot of coincidences here."

Indeed there are, I did find an archived newspaper article from The Wexford People, 14 March 1891.  It referred to a failed application to transfer a "six day licence" from James Doyle of Dunmain to his brother in law Thomas Sullivan!

So you found a birth record for Patrick. son of Thomas Sullivan whose wife's maiden name was Doyle.

This links Thomas Sullivan, (who was "Deceased" by 1897 re. Norah's wedding certificate) to both the James Doyle as a brother-in-law and to the pub trade and all in County Wexford!!!

I found other newspaper references to James Doyle of Dunmain, serving alcohol on a Sunday was one, but nothing about Thomas Sullivan.

Thank you so much for all your help, now if only the Thomas Sullivan named above had a daughter in or around 1874 even though she may not have been baptised Norah but chose a new first name for her move to England?

[Elwyn Soutter]

Honora and Nora(h) are the same name in Ireland. Interchangeable like Helen & Ellen or Ann & Agnes.

[Rosinish]

Thank you so much for all your help, now if only the Thomas Sullivan named above had a daughter in or around 1874 even though she may not have been baptised Norah but chose a new first name for her move to England?

See reply Reply #8 from Josey

Annie

[heywood]

Hi Annie,

That is the problem at the moment.
There are two Thomas Sullivans, both Farmers.
One has a daughter, Norah in reply #8.
One has a son, Patrick who becomes a Publican.

Heywood

[Forestier]

Heywood is spot on.

I have been in email contact with the Wexford County Library:
(Gráinne Doran, Archivist | Wexford County Archive)

She very kindly did some checking and suggested the same name as already mentioned on here, namely Honora Sullivan born in Old Ross, 15 Feb 1872.

I have just ordered a birth certificate from 'certificates.ie' so fingers crossed.

Thanks again.