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Offline YatesJones

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Missing birth records
« on: Sunday 06 January 19 18:36 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone help overcome one of my brick walls please?

My paternal granmother died in 1942 in West Bromwich and was, we believe around 42 at death.  This age seems to fit with her marriage certificate which states her name at marriage to be Clara Stokes. There is also a suggestion that her parents never married and as such she could be registered as Clara Boyes.

I cannot find her burial anywhere so thought I would track from the other end but I cannot locate her birth either - at present she exists when she married my grandad, had her children and when she actually died but I cant find her before or after!

Any ideas or suggestions would be much appreciated.

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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 06 January 19 18:49 GMT (UK) »
What was your grandfather’s name and dob?
What was the date of their marriage?
Who does she say is her father on the marriage cert?
Who were the witnesses?

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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 06 January 19 19:00 GMT (UK) »
You haven’t given us her all-important name at death :)

Presumably she is Clara Yates - death aged 42, Sep qtr 1942 West Bromwich 6b 579?

Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 06 January 19 19:01 GMT (UK) »
Have you looked for an exact birthdate for her in the 1939 Register?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 06 January 19 19:02 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: avm228 on Sunday 06 January 19 19:00 GMT (UK)
You haven’t given us her all-important name at death :)

Presumably she is Clara Yates - death aged 42, Sep qtr 1942 West Bromwich 6b 579?

Doh - how could I forget that?! Yes thats correct, she died in July 1942.

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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 06 January 19 19:03 GMT (UK) »
Married to Leonard?  Looks like her birthdate may be 18 August 1899.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 06 January 19 19:05 GMT (UK) »
Daughter: Ada D Yates, mother’s maiden name Stokes, birth reg Sep qtr 1923 West Bromwich.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 06 January 19 19:07 GMT (UK) »
Yes, that fits with what I have but I cannot find her (Clara) birth registered at all.

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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 06 January 19 19:08 GMT (UK) »
Have you got the certificate for her 1920 (West Bromwich) marriage to Leonard? 

Who was recorded as her father?  Names of witnesses?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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