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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 06 January 19 19:11 GMT (UK) »
Yes i do - her father is listed as Thomas Stokes. Witness Nellie Stokes (who we think is her sister), the other witness was an I or L Whitehouse.

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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 06 January 19 19:14 GMT (UK) »
OK - something to work with there.

What is the source of the suggestion that the Boyes name may be relevant?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 06 January 19 19:17 GMT (UK) »
I made contact through Ancestry with someone in Canada who may be a cousin - his mother was Gladys and we believe she was Clara's sister. Everything sort of fits with what we know or think we know but as I cant find any evidence of her birth etc I cant prove it as a fact.

When I looked back at census records I could find the family of Clara and Thomas (parents) but they do not appear to have ever married.  She was Clara Boyes.

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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 06 January 19 19:20 GMT (UK) »
OK so did this unmarried couple have a 1 yr old daughter Clara in the 1901 census?  Can you point us to their census entries?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 06 January 19 19:25 GMT (UK) »
That sound right.  Apparently the census was 31st March 1901 and we think one of the children was registered as Hannah on the census but by the time they had to register her (14th May 1901) they had changed her name to Gladys - this fits with what my contact in Canada knows from his parents.


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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 06 January 19 19:26 GMT (UK) »
OK I see the free index for 1911 suggests we should be looking in Smethwick (King’s Norton district).
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 06 January 19 19:28 GMT (UK) »
We think Clara and Thomas (parents) had Gladys, Nellie (who we cant find either) and Joseph.

Any help or even an explanation as to why I cant find them is really appreciated!

Smethwick sounds right...

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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 06 January 19 19:35 GMT (UK) »
Registrations:

Gladys Boyes, Jun qtr 1901 King’s Norton
Ronald Thorn Boyes, Sep qtr 1902 King’s Norton ??
Thomas Boyes, Mar qtr 1906 King’s Norton
Joseph Henry Boyes, Sep qtr 1907 King’s Norton
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 06 January 19 19:39 GMT (UK) »
So do you think that Nellie and Gladys were perhaps from another relationship?