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Re: Ashby De La Zouch marriage look up request
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 06 January 19 23:30 GMT (UK) »
Baptism for Eva shows father as George Frederick occ Jeweller

Marriage was 1879 surname Ellen
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Re: Ashby De La Zouch marriage look up request
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 06 January 19 23:40 GMT (UK) »
In 1881 Eva is with Joseph & Louisa Baughan under surname Baughan
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Re: Ashby De La Zouch marriage look up request
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 06 January 19 23:46 GMT (UK) »
It looks as though Alice was married to an Ellen not an Elen. Does the 1879 marriage give the father's first names, which might help to confirm this?

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Re: Ashby De La Zouch marriage look up request
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 06 January 19 23:47 GMT (UK) »
1881

Avis Ellen 35 widow think that age is wrong given sons age - can’t decipher birthplace
George Frederick 21 son occ jeweller b Bermondsey
Alice 18 daughter in law incorrectly shown as b London
RG11 piece 221 folio 91 Page 5

1879 marriage on freebmd not online
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Re: Ashby De La Zouch marriage look up request
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 06 January 19 23:51 GMT (UK) »
George is on the 1871 - father was Frederic gas fitter Full details can be found on FS
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Re: Ashby De La Zouch marriage look up request
« Reply #14 on: Monday 07 January 19 00:06 GMT (UK) »
They definitely seem to be a family of Ellens not Elens, so I think I can eliminate them from my search for Elens. Thank you! :)

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Re: Ashby De La Zouch marriage look up request
« Reply #15 on: Monday 07 January 19 10:10 GMT (UK) »
George Frederick Ellen married Alice Louisa Baughan in Islington Q1 1879

1881 Census:-

Avis Ellen Head Widow Female 35 1846 - Lincoln, Middlesex, England
George Frederick Ellen Son Married Male 21 1860 Jeweller Bermondsey, Surrey, England
Alice Ellen Sons Wife Married Female 18 1863 - City of London, Middlesex, England
Russell Clyne Lodger Single Male 21 1860 Bankers Clerk Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Edward Clarke Lodger Single Male 47 1834 Brewer Buntingford, Essex, England

ELLEN, FREDERICK JOSEPH GEORGE mmn BAUGHAN 1881 M Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 311

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Re: Ashby De La Zouch marriage look up request
« Reply #16 on: Monday 07 January 19 13:15 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, I see the 1881 details were posted by Carole W.

Very strange, if the right person, but George Ellen, the husband of Alice in 1881, seems to be on the subsequent censuses with different wives, and with Alice's son, Frederick, in 1891.

1871
Frederic Ellen Head - Male 33 1838 - London, Middlesex
Avis Ellen Wife - Female 30 1841 - London, Middlesex
George F Ellen Son - Male 12 1859 - London, Middlesex
Louisa Allsop Visitor - Female 9 1862 - Surrey

1891 - Hall Street, St Luke, Holborn
George Ellen Head Married Male 32 1859 Jeweller London, Middlesex
Charlotte Ellen Wife Married Female 31 1860 - London, Middlesex
Frederick Ellen Son - Male 10 1881 - London, Middlesex

1901 - 215, Essex Road, Islington,
George F Ellen Head Married Male 39 1862 Jeweller (Diamond Mounter) Bermondsey, Surrey
Emily A Ellen Wife Married Female 30 1871 - Hoxton, Middlesex
George H Ellen Son Single Male 4 1897 School Clerkenwell, Middlesex
Albert V Ellen Son Single Male 3 1898 - Clerkenwell, Middlesex
Emily W Ellen Daughter Single Female 1 1900 - Islington, Middlesex
Kate H Marshall Servant Single Female 23 1878 Servant (Domestic) Hackney, Middlesex

1911 - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWGS-7RF

As yet, I can't find any further marriages for George

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Re: Ashby De La Zouch marriage look up request
« Reply #17 on: Monday 07 January 19 13:54 GMT (UK) »
Thank you DCB. George certainly had a complicated life!  ::)

Alice's second marriage seems to have been a red herring. As George's surname is always spelled Ellen, it is doubtful he has any connection to the Elen family.  :)