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Rose Montgomery Bn: 1870 (unknown) Dd: 1936 Sydney NSW
« on: Monday 07 January 19 00:34 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone help please:
Trying to find any information on Rose Montgomery's birth and parents.
There are no parents listed for her death in 1936.
Rose married Robert Shanks in1892 Sydney, NSW.
They had three children that I can find.
1) Robert born 1892  died 1972?
2) John born ?           
John married  Marion Peterson/Patterson not sure if this is her maiden name or a middle name. they had one son George M Shanks.
3) Agnes Jane  born 1910  died 1984 never married.

I have some information on the Shanks family but none at all  for Rose Montgomery most information that I have has been found through the NSW BDM's and the Trove website.
 There is a Rose Ann Montgomery  in the NSW BDM  but after doing some research on her I don't think she is the Rose Montgomery that I am looking for.
Any information on her would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks Aileen.
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Valentine: Middlesex London
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Rice:Dublin Ireland
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Parkes: Halesowen Worcester England
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Re: Rose Montgomery Bn: 1870 (unknown) Dd: 1936 Sydney NSW
« Reply #1 on: Monday 07 January 19 00:54 GMT (UK) »
Whar document gives you info about Rose marrying in Sydney ...

Have you searched for her marriage cert? 

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Re: Rose Montgomery Bn: 1870 (unknown) Dd: 1936 Sydney NSW
« Reply #2 on: Monday 07 January 19 01:06 GMT (UK) »
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An official transcription of the NSW BDM's registration for the 1892 marriage should give you information that the bride and the groom gave when they were organising their marriage.  It should include the names of their parents, their fathers' occupations, their mums' nee names, their own ages, usual addresses and occupations...

NSW BDM online index has #1111/1892 for that marriage.  Drill down and it was 2 July 1892.  It is likely that the 1892 Sydney marriage registration has been fully reconciled by NSW BDM and should have been endorsed with the various registers to include the details re parentages, ages etc... assuming it was a church marriage.

https://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history-research/family-history-search.aspx

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Re: Rose Montgomery Bn: 1870 (unknown) Dd: 1936 Sydney NSW
« Reply #3 on: Monday 07 January 19 01:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jm, many thanks for the response.......I don't have any document information  on Rose Montgomery at the moment, the information I have is just what I have been able to get from the Births, Deaths and Marriages Family History website also the Trove newspaper archive website.
Cheers Aileen. 
Ross/Reid/Simpson/:Duffus Scotland
Delohery: Cork Ireland
Hazell/Hazle/Neales/Knapps:Gloucstershire
Boulton: Pilton Somerset
Valentine: Middlesex London
Prendergast: Tipperary Ireland
O'Neill:Cork Ireland
Rice:Dublin Ireland
Guerin/Geerin/ Geeran: Terryglass Tipperary Ireland
Parkes: Halesowen Worcester England
Southern: Manchester England
Mackay/McKay Sutherland Scotland
Lovell: Great Barford, Roxton Bedfordshire England
Woodley:Rattery Devon
Moorhousen:London England
Bray: Dublin Irel

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Re: Rose Montgomery Bn: 1870 (unknown) Dd: 1936 Sydney NSW
« Reply #4 on: Monday 07 January 19 02:39 GMT (UK) »
www.trove.nla has a death entry for Rose Shanks in 1936
SHANKS. July 22. 1936, at Royal Prince Alfred
Hospital, Rose, beloved wife of Robert Shanks,
and fond mother of Robert, John, and Agnes.
Aged 66 years. At Rest.
So looks like she was born c 1870  and perhaps even intestate or overseas.
shume      from australia
HUME: Fermanagh, Donegal,Sligo,Australia
PASFIELD: Essex, London
SHAW/STANLEY: Co Waterford,Ireland, Australia

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Re: Rose Montgomery Bn: 1870 (unknown) Dd: 1936 Sydney NSW
« Reply #5 on: Monday 07 January 19 02:53 GMT (UK) »
funeral notice following on from shume
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/page/1190428 smh 23 July 1936
three notices, from various Shanks family members
 
to Rookwood, C of E.

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Re: Rose Montgomery Bn: 1870 (unknown) Dd: 1936 Sydney NSW
« Reply #6 on: Monday 07 January 19 03:01 GMT (UK) »
You need the marriage certificate as Rose's death reg does not detail parents.

https://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/family-history.aspx#transcription

For around $20 you can progress with your research and at least you will know it's accurate.

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Re: Rose Montgomery Bn: 1870 (unknown) Dd: 1936 Sydney NSW
« Reply #7 on: Monday 07 January 19 03:03 GMT (UK) »
I agree.

 The info given by Rose when marrying will be first hand info. 

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Re: Rose Montgomery Bn: 1870 (unknown) Dd: 1936 Sydney NSW
« Reply #8 on: Monday 07 January 19 03:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi Cando,
Okay will get onto that.....Many thanks.
Cheers.
Ross/Reid/Simpson/:Duffus Scotland
Delohery: Cork Ireland
Hazell/Hazle/Neales/Knapps:Gloucstershire
Boulton: Pilton Somerset
Valentine: Middlesex London
Prendergast: Tipperary Ireland
O'Neill:Cork Ireland
Rice:Dublin Ireland
Guerin/Geerin/ Geeran: Terryglass Tipperary Ireland
Parkes: Halesowen Worcester England
Southern: Manchester England
Mackay/McKay Sutherland Scotland
Lovell: Great Barford, Roxton Bedfordshire England
Woodley:Rattery Devon
Moorhousen:London England
Bray: Dublin Irel