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Re: Mason: James Gregory (Name change from William Wright?)
« Reply #27 on: Monday 07 January 19 21:57 GMT (UK) »
JJ,  I think our OP is a tad and a bit younger than me...

Apparently (as per several of family members who are much much younger than me) the word 'THEY'  is currently undergoing an expansion of its meaning.    It is a handy word now,  as it is non-gender specific ... and also it is not as specific (so not as rude/ie direct) as 'You' so it is not just politically correct but it is also not discriminating or categorising or otherwise ....

Apparently ....   in the younger sets, it is frequently found to denote just ONE person (ie an alternative to the 'sexist' words ... HE / SHE  ...)  mind you, this particular family member had not ever been taught to conjugate any verb ... and err  I suspect ... umm... I think they may think I am being pedantic .... but after hearing the 'they' explanation from my rellie around a communal meal table over this season,  I then said 'WHO IS THEY' ... and the rest of the company around the table - well at least the ones my age and older and much older all said (in unison) ... 'who are they' ...  Yes,  I am sure you will be smiling at that long winded explanation ... 

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Re: Mason: James Gregory (Name change from William Wright?)
« Reply #28 on: Monday 07 January 19 22:05 GMT (UK) »
Fully agree with you JM, the usage is changing.

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Re: Mason: James Gregory (Name change from William Wright?)
« Reply #29 on: Monday 07 January 19 22:20 GMT (UK) »
You could be correct, JM.  :)

I was wondering if he thought the wife had come over, also - she was born WA - or, that William had come over with family members.

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Re: Mason: James Gregory (Name change from William Wright?)
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 08 January 19 03:04 GMT (UK) »
You could be correct, JM.  :)

I was wondering if he thought the wife had come over, also - she was born WA - or, that William had come over with family members.

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Apologies, you are correct. When I said "they" I just meant William, because I am just unsure.

I have sent off to order the Marriage Certificate between William / James and Ada.

Do you think that will have additional info about his parents on it?

I will report back my findings when it arrives regardless.

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Re: Mason: James Gregory (Name change from William Wright?)
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 08 January 19 05:14 GMT (UK) »
The following are the provisions for information on a W A marriage certificate.
Date
Couple's names
Couple's ages
Couple's birthplaces
Previous status
Couple's occupations
Couple's residences
Fathers' names
Fathers' occupations
Groom's mothers name

What you find of course will depend on the truthfulness of the couple who give the information.

In 1925, Ada Amelia appears twice on the Electoral Roll.
1.MASON, Ada Amelia, River Street Sth Perth.H D
She also appears there in 1917 and 1919. No others with her of the name.

2.RUTHERFORD, Ada Amelia, 19 Norfolk St, Fremantle. Married.
No others with her of the name.

I would think it possible she simply forgot to change her details.

As you know George, the father of Ina and Irene died in 4th Jan 1917.
He had made an application to join the AIF that year, but there seems no further information in regard to it.

There is other information about Ada, which I and others will type up for you if you wish, but nothing I have found casts light on the mystery of James Gregory ( Jim)Mason  AKA William Wright, who may have gone from a sawyer in 1901 and later to the Merchant Marines at sea in 1941 and a pantryman at Cottesloe in 1958.

If you are interested in details of Ada, let us know.
Did she died very sadly in 1954?

Sue

 
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Re: Mason: James Gregory (Name change from William Wright?)
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 08 January 19 05:19 GMT (UK) »
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He was in the Merchand Navy during WWI and at one stage he was captured.

Do you know what name he used then?
Is he in the Red Cross prisoner of war lists?

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Re: Mason: James Gregory (Name change from William Wright?)
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 08 January 19 06:08 GMT (UK) »
It is fairly clear he enlisted as James MASON ( I do not see Gregory)

Here are some news mentions.

A letter is written from J MASON from POW camp MARLAG. Passed for repatriation 1944
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/44811536

Home after 5 years in camp. James MASON 1945
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/44998009

Picture of Sapper BRANSON and mention of J MASON 1941
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/78583704

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Re: Mason: James Gregory (Name change from William Wright?)
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 08 January 19 06:16 GMT (UK) »
Ah!
In this lengthy article, James MASON tell the whole story  and bits of his life too.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/51749733

After spending three days in Chester Hospital I was sent to London where I was greeted by my mother sisters and brothers whom  had not seen for 28 years.

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Re: Mason: James Gregory (Name change from William Wright?)
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 08 January 19 06:27 GMT (UK) »
The following are the provisions for information on a W A marriage certificate.
Date
Couple's names
Couple's ages
Couple's birthplaces
Previous status
Couple's occupations
Couple's residences
Fathers' names
Fathers' occupations
Groom's mothers name

What you find of course will depend on the truthfulness of the couple who give the information.

In 1925, Ada Amelia appears twice on the Electoral Roll.
1.MASON, Ada Amelia, River Street Sth Perth.H D
She also appears there in 1917 and 1919. No others with her of the name.

2.RUTHERFORD, Ada Amelia, 19 Norfolk St, Fremantle. Married.
No others with her of the name.

I would think it possible she simply forgot to change her details.

As you know George, the father of Ina and Irene died in 4th Jan 1917.
He had made an application to join the AIF that year, but there seems no further information in regard to it.

There is other information about Ada, which I and others will type up for you if you wish, but nothing I have found casts light on the mystery of James Gregory ( Jim)Mason  AKA William Wright, who may have gone from a sawyer in 1901 and later to the Merchant Marines at sea in 1941 and a pantryman at Cottesloe in 1958.

If you are interested in details of Ada, let us know.
Did she died very sadly in 1954?

Sue

Hmm, so there IS a George Mason! Did you find any evidence of George and Adas marriage?

All of your other finds are AMAZING! I am reading all of these articles! Not seeing his family for 28 years lines up with him being the William Wright from the earlier London Census's.

I really hope that most of the information on the marriage certificate is filled out!