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Re: New and Well Stuck in FOX mud......
« Reply #36 on: Friday 11 January 19 15:13 GMT (UK) »
Appears to be a Commercial Traveller in paper  in 1881
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27Q-PWYK

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Re: New and Well Stuck in FOX mud......
« Reply #38 on: Friday 11 January 19 15:22 GMT (UK) »
The James Richard Fox in Ireland was an Engineer he had two children in Co Tyrone
Hilda 1871 and Hugh below 1872
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1872/03240/2187031.pdf
Mother of children was Annie Elizabeth (formerly Lee).  Hilda was Hilda Emma. Her name has been transcribed as Eilda; I've submitted amendment.

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Re: New and Well Stuck in FOX mud......
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 12 January 19 19:50 GMT (UK) »
ok ok ok...... so how come you guys find the Irish records?? Because every time I typed into the search on the Irish genealogy it came up with 'not known'.

Hands up - you guys are awesome!!!!! THANK YOU SO SO VERY MUCH  :) :) :)

Anyone know about when Annie Elizabeth Lee/Fox was married and died? again - I cant find alot on her.  It is possible she was born around 1851, apparently she was young when she had her children.

James Richard Fox 1st wife Emma Steere d.1869 buried in Battersea (London). Enter Annie Elizabeth Lee... James and Annie's 1st child together was born in Tyrone Ireland 1871 - Hylda Emma Agnes, on the birth registry James was a mechanic in Ireland. Ive searched for the marriage certificate but to no avail, I also cant find when she died. Any ideas please??

Thank you :)

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Re: New and Well Stuck in FOX mud......
« Reply #40 on: Sunday 13 January 19 11:44 GMT (UK) »
Sidney's age is out by 5 yrs on this one but he appears to be the only one of that name born in Ireland living in England

wonder would it be worth checking out the relatives to see who he's related to
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4WQJ-PZM

going by the wifes age marriage before 1871
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VF63-TYV

Harry Pocock 1881
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q277-53NF

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Re: New and Well Stuck in FOX mud......
« Reply #41 on: Sunday 13 January 19 14:36 GMT (UK) »
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" Sidney's age is out by 5 yrs on this one but he appears to be the only one of that name born in Ireland living in England

wonder would it be worth checking out the relatives to see who he's related to"
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4WQJ-PZM

Possible marriage:

Marriages Dec 1864   
Coster    John        Pancras    1b   61    
Fox    Mary Elizabeth         Pancras    1b   61   

Mary E Coster shown in the above census as born c1846 Hampshire

Possible birth:
FOX, MARY  ELIZABETH      Mother's maiden name WALLIS      
GRO Reference: 1845  J Quarter in THE STOCKBRIDGE UNION  Volume 07  Page 219 :

Possible marriage for parents:

Marriages Jun 1841 

FOX    Charles Richard         Stockbridge    7   277   
WALLIS    Maria         Stockbridge    7   277   



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Harry Pocock 1881
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q277-53NF

Possible marriage:

Marriages Sep 1864 
FOX    Ellen         Marylebone    1a   846    
POCOCK    Henry Alexander         Marylebone    1a   846    

Ellen is recorded on the above census as being born c1843 King Somborne Hampshire

Possible birth for Ellen (name not chosen when registered):
FOX, -        Mother's maiden name WALLIS      
GRO Reference: 1843  M Quarter in THE STOCKBRIDGE UNION  Volume 07 Page 214



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Re: New and Well Stuck in FOX mud......
« Reply #42 on: Sunday 13 January 19 22:44 GMT (UK) »
ok ok ok...... so how come you guys find the Irish records?? Because every time I typed into the search on the Irish genealogy it came up with 'not known'.

Hands up - you guys are awesome!!!!! THANK YOU SO SO VERY MUCH  :) :) :)

You may be putting in too much information or being too precise. For instance, I only fill in registration district box when I'm certain I know correct district. If too many results appear from whole of Ireland I select a district which I think is most likely from list at side of page; if no result in that district I select another possible.  I put in a span of years unless I'm 100% sure the event was registered in a particular year. Sometimes I'll search for a surname in a district in a time-frame if I suspect forename may be different from what I think it is. Other people will have different strategies.
We learn by experience. I've learned things through helping on this and other forums and noticing how other people find out stuff and how they collaborate. RootsChatters generally choose to reply to topics about which they have some knowledge. If your topic had been about Wales for example, I would have clicked "Ignore topic".

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Re: New and Well Stuck in FOX mud......
« Reply #43 on: Monday 14 January 19 15:33 GMT (UK) »
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Anyone know about when Annie Elizabeth Lee/Fox was married and died? again - I cant find alot on her.  It is possible she was born around 1851, apparently she was young when she had her children.

James Richard Fox 1st wife Emma Steere d.1869 buried in Battersea (London). Enter Annie Elizabeth Lee... James and Annie's 1st child together was born in Tyrone Ireland 1871 - Hylda Emma Agnes, on the birth registry James was a mechanic in Ireland. Ive searched for the marriage certificate but to no avail, I also cant find when she died. Any ideas please??

1891 census:

Address: Ferndale Road Lambeth London
Head: Annie Fox, Widow, aged 38, born Surrey, occ: Machinist
Dau: Annett Fox, aged 13, born Surrey
Son Ernest Fox, aged 6, born Surrey

Possible death for Annie:
Deaths Sep 1897 
Fox    Annie Elizabeth    aged 42    Lambeth    1d   317   

Death for James:

Deaths Jun 1881 
Fox    James Richard    44    Wandsworth    1d   318

Birth for Ernest:
FOX, ERNEST        mother's maiden name LEE      
GRO Reference: 1883  D Quarter in WANDSWORTH  Volume 01D  Page 635

so James Richard Fox not the biological father of Ernest

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Re: New and Well Stuck in FOX mud......
« Reply #44 on: Monday 14 January 19 19:56 GMT (UK) »
James Richard Fox
b.1836 (Mottisfont)       
d.Apr.1881 (Wandsworth, Surrey; died to faulty small pox vaccination)               
m.Jun.1857 (Kensington) John Walker & Mary Jolly witnesses.            
Emma Steere                                    
b. 1830 (Guildford)                        
d.Jun.1869 (Battersea)                     
                           
George Charles            Harriet Elizabeth              Edith Emma                   Louis Harold      
b.May.1858 (Ryde IoW)    b.1862 (Wallingford)       b.Jul.1866(Andover)   b.Nov.1867   

James Richard 2nd marriage
m.
Annie Elizabeth Lee
b.?1851

Hilda Emma Agnes      Hugh William Boyd               Sidney James Richard   Annette  Mary Ellen
b.1871(Tyrone,Ireland)  b.1873(Cookstown,Ireland) b.1875(Belfast,Ireland)   b.Mar.1878 (Clapham)