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Offline GWENDOLINE

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How to find records for workhouses in st pancras in 1856
« on: Monday 07 January 19 20:33 GMT (UK) »
I have found via ancestry.co.uk that two of my ancestors were admitted to a work house in 1856 aged 12 and 10
would there be any reports available on  their circumstances.

Arthur Keyte  1844 and Robert Keyte 1846

Arthur was also admitted on an earlier occasion with two other siblings in the 1840s .

Ralph, Montgomeryshire
Brumwell    Montgomeryshire 
Jandrell    Montgomeryshire
George    Radnorshire
Chesterfield   Cornwall, London
Keyte    City of London
Hayward  Fairford, Gloucestershire
Evison    Ruabon, Denbighshire
Woodhall   Corwen, Flintshire
Jones    Leigh, Worcestershire
Butler    Staffordshire  Worcestershire
Spencer   Worcestershire
Jeynes  Worcestershire
Onslow  Worcestershire

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Re: How to find records for workhouses in st pancras in 1856
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 08 January 19 02:18 GMT (UK) »
I can't locate any detailed records, but the register of inmates shows that Arthur 12, Robert 9 & James 3.5 were admitted on 27 Jan 1857 with their father, Stephen, a 56 year old Cotton Cutter. 

It says that Arthur was discharged the same day as his father (24 July 1857) but that Robert & James were sent to Forest Gate School on 2 Mar.  However, I think this may actually have been Arthur & Robert as there is a 13 July admission for Arthur Keats 13 & Robert Keats 11, both 'from Forest Gate'. 

Sadly Stephen's discharge didn't last long as they were all readmitted on 27 July 1857 and finally discharged on 13 October 1857.

As you have Anc*, here is the link - first admission towards the bottom left and then almost the same position on the right hand page: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n87/

Stephen & James were admitted again in 1862
Robert was admitted again in 1863
James was possibly admitted again in 1866 as Kite
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: How to find records for workhouses in st pancras in 1856
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 08 January 19 04:57 GMT (UK) »
Thank you. Is there a way of finding out the circumstances for these admissions? They
Ralph, Montgomeryshire
Brumwell    Montgomeryshire 
Jandrell    Montgomeryshire
George    Radnorshire
Chesterfield   Cornwall, London
Keyte    City of London
Hayward  Fairford, Gloucestershire
Evison    Ruabon, Denbighshire
Woodhall   Corwen, Flintshire
Jones    Leigh, Worcestershire
Butler    Staffordshire  Worcestershire
Spencer   Worcestershire
Jeynes  Worcestershire
Onslow  Worcestershire

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Re: How to find records for workhouses in st pancras in 1856
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 08 January 19 09:20 GMT (UK) »
The workhouse web site shows what records are available for St Pancras.  You will need to scroll to the end for 'Records'
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/StPancras/
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Re: How to find records for workhouses in st pancras in 1856
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 08 January 19 10:19 GMT (UK) »
Thank you what a sad story .. his common law  wife Narg Ann Fitzgerald apparently died in 1858. . Is it possible the two daughters Emma who was born  1838 and Esther 1841 would have been working  so would not have been admitted .. Trying to reconcile this miserable life they must have had .
Ralph, Montgomeryshire
Brumwell    Montgomeryshire 
Jandrell    Montgomeryshire
George    Radnorshire
Chesterfield   Cornwall, London
Keyte    City of London
Hayward  Fairford, Gloucestershire
Evison    Ruabon, Denbighshire
Woodhall   Corwen, Flintshire
Jones    Leigh, Worcestershire
Butler    Staffordshire  Worcestershire
Spencer   Worcestershire
Jeynes  Worcestershire
Onslow  Worcestershire

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John Pellatt m Emma and Esther Keyte
« Reply #5 on: Friday 22 April 22 12:38 BST (UK) »
Hope this gets to you.  I can't find the link to your 2007 query.  However this is the story of John Pellatt and Esther as I have found out so far - Philip Hope Pellatt.

John Hope Pellatt (1806 – 1865), on 18 Apr 1829 he married Emma Keyte (1808-1838) at St Georges Church, Cannon Street Road, London.  John and Emma had three children; Fortunatus (1830), Esther (1832), Emma (1834).

John’s occupations as shown variously on census, baptism and birth records were -
1832 Tea Dealer
1834 Grocer
1837 Grocer
1840 Shipbroker
1851 Merchant's clerk
1861 Ship broker

Emma died Sept/Dec 1838 at Coventry Warwickshire.  There has been no evidence of a divorce found; however on 11 May 1836 John married Emma’s sister Esther Jones Keyte (1806 – 1879) in a civil ceremony at Gretna Hall, Dumfries, Scotland.

This civil ceremony was because as he had first married Esther’s sister (and perhaps divorced) he had to be married outside of Anglican Church under the marriage laws of that time.

In her 1838 will, Esther’s mother in bequeathing some items to Esther, referred to her as Mrs Pellatt.  She obviously saw this as a legal marriage.

Esther and John received a dispensation from the Church and married (religiously) on 20 March 1840 at St Michael Bassishaw Church, London.

John and Esther had four children: Edwin (1837-1838); Matilda Emily (1838); Alfred (1840-1908) and Marianne (1842).

John died on 26 Feb 1865 at 4 St Anne’s Road, Brixton, and was buried on 4 March 1865 at Nunhead Cemetery, Linden Grove, Southwark, London.  Nunhead Cemetery is one of the “Magnificent Seven” cemeteries in London, opened in 1840.  Because of the unceasing growth of London’s population its church graveyards were overcrowded.  Not only did this make burials increasingly undignified affairs but many people believed some sort of noxious vapour or ‘miasma’ rose into the air from the decomposed corpses, spreading diseases.

John is my Great Great Grandfather, and Alfred is my Great Grandfather.  He came to Australia in 1866