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Hopper, Douthwaite, Fisher - Malton area 1800's
« on: Tuesday 08 January 19 04:45 GMT (UK) »
Hello! In the 1980's my dad traced our Fisher lineage back to Richard Fisher of Easingwold, christened in 1667, married Ann Hew in 1691, and then forward to the 1850's, but we have nothing since then, so no knowledge of present-day relatives. Looking for descendants of my great-grandfather's (Henry Fisher, born 1828 in York) four siblings:
Thomas Fisher (untraceable so far), Charlotte, Hannah and Jane Fisher. Charlotte and Hannah married two Hopper brothers. Charlotte and Robert Hopper of Kenneythorpe had a son, Henry Fisher Hopper, chr. March 5 1848, and daughter Jane, chr. Feb 10, 1850.  Hannah and John Hopper had a daughter, Agnes, born in Malton 1853 (recorded in 1861 as living with her grandmother, Ann Fisher, at Kennythorpe).  Jane married William Douthwaite  (a schoolmaster) in Scampston, and in the 1851 census had a son Charles age 1 and daughter Annie age 7 months.  And then the lineage stops!  If anyone can fill in the blanks of the next generations of Hoppers and Douthwaites, please kindly let me know.  I also have further dates for Fishers of Easingwold in the 1700's (though I think the Fisher line may have died out back then), and marriage dates for the siblings listed above, if helpful.  Thanks!

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Re: Hopper, Douthwaite, Fisher - Malton area 1800's
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 08 January 19 12:31 GMT (UK) »
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1861 - RG9/3610 folio 73 page 4
William Douthwaite - 33 - Schoolmaster
Jane - 36
Charles H - 11
Annie - 10
Frederick - 7
Arthur - 5
John - 4
William - 9
Fanny Adams - 13 - Servant   ;D ;D

1871 - RG10/4432 folio 9 page 12
William Douthwaite - National Schoolmaster
Jane - 46
Charles H - 21
Annie - 20
William - 19
Frederick - 17
Arthur - 15
Mary E - 9
Emily J - 7
Agnes Hopper - 18 - niece

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Re: Hopper, Douthwaite, Fisher - Malton area 1800's
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 08 January 19 12:41 GMT (UK) »
Have you looked in Surname Interests, under Your Tools, below, to see if anyone else is researching your families?

 

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Re: Hopper, Douthwaite, Fisher - Malton area 1800's
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 08 January 19 15:31 GMT (UK) »
Lots of links for info on Henry Fisher Hopper can be found here*** it looks like he moved to Canada,  married Phoebe Ann Grainger 8th Feb 1871:

Event Type    Marriage
Event Date    08 Feb 1871
Event Place    York, York, Ontario, Canada
Gender    Male
Age    24
Birth Yea rc1847
Father's Name    Robert
Mother's Name    Charlotte
Spouse's Name    Phoebe A Grainger
Spouse's Gender    Female
Spouse's Age    18
Spouse's Birth Year c1853
Spouse's Father's Name    Thos
Spouse's Mother's Name    Mary Ann

and remarrried in 1887 to Catherine Grainger

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Re: Hopper, Douthwaite, Fisher - Malton area 1800's
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 08 January 19 15:44 GMT (UK) »
1851 census for Robert and Charlotte Hopper (nee Fisher ) also records a son Thomas born c1847

birth reg:
HOPPER, THOMAS        MMN FISHER        
GRO Reference: 1846  S Quarter in MALTON UNION  Volume 24  Page 450

Possible marriage for Thomas:

Name    Thomas Hopper
Event Type    Marriage
Event Date    12 Oct 1881
Event Place    Toronto, York, Ontario, Canada
Gender    Male
Age    37
Birth Year (Estimated)    1844
Father's Name    Robert Hopper
Mother's Name    Charlotte Hopper
Spouse's Name    Elizabeth Snider
Spouse's Gender    Female
Spouse's Age    45
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated)    1836
Spouse's Father's Name    William Basingthwaite
Spouse's Mother's Name    Margaret Basingthwaite


Possible death for Thomas:

From Ontario Deaths and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947
Name    Thomas Hopper
Event Type    Death
Event Date    02 Apr 1926
Event Place    York, Ontario, Canada
Gender    Male
Age    79
Birth Year (Estimated)    1847
Father's Name    Robert Hopper
Mother's Name    Charlotte Fisher



Possible marriage for Jane Hopper:

from Ontario Marriages
Name    David Benson
Event Type    Marriage
Event Date    04 Jan 1871
Event Place    Trenton Brook, York, Ontario, Canada
Gender    Male
Age    30
Birth Year (Estimated)    1841
Father's Name    Robert Benson
Mother's Name    Jane Benson
Spouse's Name    Jane Hopper
Spouse's Gender    Female
Spouse's Age    21
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated)    1850
Spouse's Father's Name    Robert Hopper
Spouse's Mother's Name    Charlotte Hopper


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Re: Hopper, Douthwaite, Fisher - Malton area 1800's
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 08 January 19 16:00 GMT (UK) »
Possible other children of Robert and Charlotte Hopper (nee Fisher)

Name    Alice Octavia Hopper
Event Type    Birth
Event Date    11 Oct 1871
Event Place    Vaughan, York, Ontario, Canada
Gender    Female
Father's Name    Robert Hopper
Mother's Name    Charlotte Fisher

Possible daughter Elizabeth born c1857 in Ontario marrying in 1877:

Name    Robert John Evans
Event Type    Marriage
Event Date    04 Jan 1877
Event Place    Willowdale, York, Ontario, Canada
Gender    Male
Age    23
Birth Year (Estimated)    1854
Father's Name    Robert Evans
Mother's Name    Margaret
Spouse's Name    Elizabeth Hopper
Spouse's Gender    Female
Spouse's Age    20
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated)    1857
Spouse's Father's Name    Robert Hopper
Spouse's Mother's Name    Charlotte Fisher


Possibly Charlotte in 1891:

Canada Census, 1891
Name    Charlotte Hopper
Gender    Female
Age    66
Relationship to Head of Household    Head
Birth Year (Estimated)    1825
Birthplace    Ontario
Marital Status    Widowed
Religion    Eng Ch
Province    Ontario
District    York West
District Number    132
Sub-District    Richmond Hill

Record her as a Widow

Possible burial for Robert:
Name    Robert Hopper
Event Type    Burial
Event Date    1890
Event Place    Richmond Hill, York Regional Municipality, Ontario, Canada
Photograph Included    Y
Death Date    31 Dec 1890
Affiliate Record Identifier    168027923
Cemetery    Richmond Hill Presbyterian Cemetery
Possible death for Charlotte in 1893:

Possible burial:
Name    Charlotte Hopper
Event Type    Burial
Event Place    Richmond Hill, York Regional Municipality, Ontario, Canada
Photograph Included    Y
Affiliate Record Identifier    168027946
Cemetery    Richmond Hill Presbyterian Cemetery


Link to 1871 census (possiblly the Hopper family)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M47F-TWN

as these births in England:

HOPPER, ROBERT        MMN FISHER      
GRO Reference: 1852  S Quarter in MALTON UNION  Volume 09D  Page 263

HOPPER, WILLIAM        MMN FISHER        
GRO Reference: 1855  M Quarter in MALTON UNION  Volume 09D  Page 288

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Re: Hopper, Douthwaite, Fisher - Malton area 1800's
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 09 January 19 15:42 GMT (UK) »
Possible children of John and Hannah Hopper (nee Fisher):

HOPPER, DAVID        MMN FISHER      
GRO Reference: 1851  J Quarter in MALTON UNION  Volume 24  Page 55

HOPPER, AGNES        MMN FISHER      
GRO Reference: 1852  S Quarter in MALTON UNION  Volume 09D  Page 276

HOPPER, ANN        MMN FISHER        
GRO Reference: 1854  M Quarter in MALTON UNION  Volume 09D  Page 279

HOPPER, MARY        MMN FISHER      
GRO Reference: 1857  D Quarter in TADCASTER  Volume 09C  Page 503

Possible 1871 census:

Scarborough Yorkshire:

Head: John Hopper aged 53 born Wetwang Yorkshire Married occ: Shepherd
Son: Thos F Hopper aged 15 born Aberford Yorkshire occ: Butcher
Dau: Mary Hopper aged 13 born Barkston Ash Yorkshire


Possible John and Hannah in 1881 census:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27B-64HP

Possible 1891 census:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:75T1-4T2

Hannah in 1901 living with her daughter Mary and family (recorded as Step Mother but should be Mother-in-Law)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9RY-TZ1

Marriage for Mary to Joseph Cawood:

Marriages Mar 1885 
Cawood    Joseph        Pontefract    9c   149    
Hopper    Mary Fisher         Pontefract    9c   149   

Possible death for John:

Deaths Jun 1898   
Hopper    John    81    Scarbro'    9d   221

Death for Hannah:

Deaths Dec 1902 
Hopper    Hannah    87    N. Bierley    9b   106

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Re: Hopper, Douthwaite, Fisher - Malton area 1800's
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 09 January 19 15:48 GMT (UK) »
Marriage Dates:

Name    Robert Hopper
Spouse's Name    Charlotte Fisher
Event Date either 6th  or 7th Feb 1846
Event Place    Langton By Malton,York,England
Father's Name    Robert Hopper
Spouse's Father's Name    Thomas Fisher


Name    William Dowthwaite
Spouse's Name    Jane Fisher
Event Date    15 Sep 1848
Event Place    Langton By Malton,York,England
Father's Name    William Dow


Name    John Hopper
Spouse's Name    Hannah Fisher
Event Date    04 Jan 1851
Event Place    Langton By Malton,York,England
Father's Name    Robert Hopper
Spouse's Father's Name    Thomas Fisher

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Re: Hopper, Douthwaite, Fisher - Malton area 1800's
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 10 January 19 08:35 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much everyone for your quick and detailed responses!  I'm thrilled to receive all this information.  I'm also happy to see that I may have some relatives living here in Canada, not just in the UK.  I appreciate your help very much!