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Re: esther may Mcsavney/Gardiner
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 09 January 19 06:46 GMT (UK) »
Could this be the lass?

1926/6706 Esther Campbell Gardiner    Arthur Clarence Brown

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Re: esther may Mcsavney/Gardiner
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Re: esther may Mcsavney/Gardiner
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 09 January 19 06:49 GMT (UK) »
Could this be the lass?

1926/6706 Esther Campbell Gardiner    Arthur Clarence Brown

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Re: esther may Mcsavney/Gardiner
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 09 January 19 06:50 GMT (UK) »
Death

1956/27684   Brown   Esther Campbell   56Y

So what’s that 1984 reference about?


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Re: esther may Mcsavney/Gardiner
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 09 January 19 06:56 GMT (UK) »
We will just have to sit and wait for LNR to explain.


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Re: esther may Mcsavney/Gardiner
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 09 January 19 07:07 GMT (UK) »
https://infoservices.adc.govt.nz/Cemeteries/

Surname    Brown
First Name(s)    Esther
Age (years)    56
Age (months)    0
Denomination    Anglican
Occupation    Married
Date of Death    14/09/1956
Additional Plot Information    CHURCH OF ENGLAND
Cemetery    pdf download Ashburton
Area    255
Plot Number    22
Interment Date    17/09/1956
Purchaser    Esther Brown
Date Purchased    14/09/1956
Depth    Single Depth
Celebrant    Rev Price

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Re: esther may Mcsavney/Gardiner
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 09 January 19 21:10 GMT (UK) »
thanks All I know is that a child by the name of Esther May Mcsavney born 23 november 1899 chch was adopted( Dont know what age)by Sydney Gardiner and wife Mabel elizabeth (nee Hoare) married 1905The birth was registered chch 8th Feb 1984 I do not know why either.Seems funny as Esther would have been  nearly 85? years old. Sidney and Mabel divorced In those records. it says that Estherwas adopted in 1914 at the age of 15 and sydney remarried 1917 after coming home from the war By then esther would have been 17-18 years old= lnr

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Re: esther may Mcsavney/Gardiner
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 09 January 19 22:24 GMT (UK) »
Hello.

In my experience, and as per a reply to the forum by B. D. & M.  The year date in the register is the date that the registration was formalized. Eg the need for a formal birth certificate to be able to claim a pension, could see a birth registration being applied for 60 - 65 years after birth in NZ.

You state that an adoption was involved. When I was involved with a Parent's Centre in the 1960's the family court first issued an interium adoption, [with a cool off period] before the Court would formally confirm the adoption. The final application may never have been actioned. But adoptions laws have changed over time.

I would think that there was probably a need for a birth certificate, to do with the disbursment of an deceased estate. Proof of Grand child etc.

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Re: esther may Mcsavney/Gardiner
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 10 January 19 06:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi Have looked up the Ashburton cemetery data and found Arthur Clarence Browns grave He died 1983 area 255 plot 21 purchaser Esther Brown Right next to Esther They married 1926 she as Esther campbell Gardiner after her adoptive parents Thanks so much to all concerned another brick wall tumbled lnr