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Re: Joseph Graham
« Reply #27 on: Friday 11 January 19 11:28 GMT (UK) »
I don't pretend to even understand Ancestry DNA matches but can't see where she has a link between Hambletons and Grahams.  As she has the tree wrong would this not give a wrong 'reading' on Ancestry
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Re: Joseph Graham
« Reply #28 on: Friday 11 January 19 14:42 GMT (UK) »
The fact she has made a mistake with Reginald Lockhart Graham’s parents does leave me wondering if she has made more mistakes linking the wrong people between Ron Hambleton and Reginald.

I think the fact R.H. is a DNA match to me has caused her to be lazy and assume our shared ancestor is Henry Graham 1815–1877. Having said that, I’m absolutely convinced we have a shared ancestor…

As well as being a match to my Grandad, RH (Ron Hambleton) is also a match to two other people I share DNA with.

One is a direct descendant of Henry Graham 1815–1877 along a different branch to me.
Henry Graham 1815–1877 >> Henry Graham 1857–1938 >> Henry Malcolm Graham 1924–1999 >> Person I’m a match to

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The other is a direct descendant of William Graham 1848–1916 along a different branch to me.
William Graham 1848–1916 >> Arthur Charles Ernest Hamilton Graham 1873–1957 >> William Douglas Grant Hamilton 1914–1988 >> Person I’m a match to

The people I've made bold and purple are shared ancestors. I hope i've explained it in a way that makes sense :-)

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Re: Joseph Graham
« Reply #29 on: Friday 11 January 19 17:35 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, your explanation was very clear  :)   

It does look as though the Joseph living in Devon could be Henry's father.  I wish I could locate the marriage between him and Jane Millburn though it is possible they never married.

I have tried to locate the children who were born abroad that were showing in 1841 but no further sightings I am afraid.

ADDED
Just found Fanny in 1851 & 1861 - born Trinidad  - The 1851 also has St Ames
H0107/1870 f33 p21
RG09/1408 f97 p15
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Re: Joseph Graham
« Reply #30 on: Friday 11 January 19 18:40 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for tracking down Fanny in those two census records :-)

I've found these three trees that all have Joseph Graham in them;

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/20025118/family/pedigree
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/5241663/family/pedigree
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/48411175/family/pedigree

This tree...
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/45770706/person/6424026010/facts
gives an exact date and place for the marriage of Joseph Graham and Jane Milburn. Sadly it doesn't link to a marriage record. I don't have a worldwide access membership with Ancestry, so I wouldn't be able to check it even if they did.

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Re: Joseph Graham
« Reply #31 on: Friday 11 January 19 22:05 GMT (UK) »
I can see a marriage for a Henry Graham and a Mary Jane Chapman on 26 January 1837 in Clinton Ohio, not Joseph and Milburn.
 Still looking.

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Re: Joseph Graham
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 12 January 19 12:15 GMT (UK) »
It looks as though those trees are just copies of each other, none appear to have purchased Reginalds birth certificate and all have given his father Joseph a middle name.  Sorry, I don't have worldwide access either. 

I would have thought that if Joseph did have a middle name it would have been on Reginalds and/or Sarah S baptism entries which do give the middle name of their mother ie Jane Windle.  Their fathers occ on the baptisms was Gentleman.
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Re: Joseph Graham
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 13 January 19 20:32 GMT (UK) »
I think you're right Rosie about them being copies. I'll purchase Reginald's birth and Joseph's death cert to see if they reveal anymore clues.

Thanks again for all your help  :)

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Re: Joseph Graham
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 13 January 19 20:34 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for checking that for me Chempat :)

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Re: Joseph Graham
« Reply #35 on: Monday 14 January 19 12:03 GMT (UK) »
Although we don't have proof that the Devon Joseph is father of your Henry and James Beard Graham I think probably the way to progress is to see if any Trinidad records exist for James Beard and the children born abroad to Joseph in Devon.  Maybe some clue as to Joseph's probable first wife. 

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