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Re: William Woodham again - new development
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 09 January 19 22:46 GMT (UK) »
In this marriage permission his name is spelled 'Woodham'
The police number '1306' confirms it as same the person
https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON52-1-1p093


Just to be clear, how can you be sure this is a marriage application?

-DC

CON52 is 'Registers of Applications for Permission to Marry'
https://librariestas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/tas/search/detailnonmodal/ent:$002f$002fARCHIVES_SERIES$002f0$002fCON52/one

His is marked 'EO' for 'Ecclesiastical Objection' most likely because his convict record shows him as married. The church in Tasmania at this time would ask to see applicant's convict records and refuse to marry them if they thought they were already married


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Re: William Woodham again - new development
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 09 January 19 22:51 GMT (UK) »
Is there any way to determine if William stayed in Tas or returned to the UK?

Trove digitised historical newspaper mentions of him in Tasmania, with the latest possible one I can see at this stage being a court case in 1847
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=%22william+wadham%22&exactPhrase=&anyWords=&notWords=&requestHandler=&dateFrom=&dateTo=1880-12-31&l-advstate=Tasmania&sortby=dateDesc

Add: or possibly him in a jury 1866
1866 'SUPREME COURT.', The Cornwall Chronicle (Launceston, Tas. : 1835 - 1880), 28 April, p. 3. , viewed 10 Jan 2019, http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article72359648

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Re: William Woodham again - new development
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 09 January 19 23:15 GMT (UK) »
I saw the date Sept 10 on the marriage objection but I didn't see the year.
Can you see elsewhere on the page what year that was?

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Re: William Woodham again - new development
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 09 January 19 23:38 GMT (UK) »
I saw the date Sept 10 on the marriage objection but I didn't see the year.
Can you see elsewhere on the page what year that was?

-DC

There are 2 marriage permission records for William Wadham, 1840 and 1842
https://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/search/results?qu=william&qu=wadham&qf=NI_INDEX%09Record+type%09Marriage+Permissions%09Marriage+Permissions#

The 1842 one has the note "cannot approve on account of Wm Wadham's certificate"

Not sure what that means but it may be that he did not yet have his certificate of freedom - it was available for him in 1837...
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article65949784
...but he doesn't look to have collected it until 1846?

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Re: William Woodham again - new development
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 09 January 19 23:42 GMT (UK) »

2 brothers and 2 sisters - 1 brother in navy
Father Isaac at native place


Just confirmed from my family tree that he had two brothers and two sisters.

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Re: William Woodham again - new development
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 09 January 19 23:49 GMT (UK) »

There are 2 marriage permission records for William Wadham, 1840 and 1842
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The 1842 one has the note "cannot approve on account of Wm Wadham's certificate"

Not sure what that means but it may be that he did not yet have his certificate of freedom - it was available for him in 1837...
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article65949784
...but he doesn't look to have collected it until 1846?


Maybe he'd caused some trouble during his sentence that inspired people to extend it?

And regards the certificate, maybe it had details of his marriage in the UK?

Am also wondering about the conditions of his imprisonment.
Would he have been kept in a work camp or do you think he had a degree of freedom to go around on his own? One of the documents we looked at said he had a master and it occurs to me he might have been used as a servant for some officer.


So we know he survived at least until 1846?

-DC

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Re: William Woodham again - new development
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 10 January 19 00:16 GMT (UK) »
Any additional sentencing would show on his conduct record, and there's nothing there

He arrived here during the assignment period where well-enough behaved convicts were assigned as workers for settlers. After a term they could get a Ticket of Leave allowing them to work as if free, but under restrictions

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Re: William Woodham again - new development
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 10 January 19 00:34 GMT (UK) »
William received his ticket of leave in November 1835.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article232801158

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Re: William Woodham again - new development
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 10 January 19 01:43 GMT (UK) »
Great Result  :) Well Done,   :D

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