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Re: Marriage help please
« Reply #9 on: Friday 11 January 19 16:09 GMT (UK) »
Baptism:

Name    Elizabeth Anne Helliwell Lawton
Residence Place    York, England
Gender    Female
Christening Date    11 Sep 1867
Christening Date (Original)    11Sep1867
Christening Place    Dodworth, York, England
Mother's Name    Phebe Lawton

Possible marriage for Phoebe Lawton:

Marriages Jun 1870   
Lawton    Phoebe        Barnsley    9c   196    
STRUTT    Tom         Barnsley    9c   196<<<<<<<<<

<<<<<<<<< Elizabeth's stepfather, possible witness to the marriage in 1908 although Elizabeth did have a half brother Thomas born c1878  (see below for baptism) who could also have been the witness   

Some Strutt family info can be found here:
https://tinyurl.com/y9ypd6qh

Link to 1891 census for William and Elizabeth Ashworth:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7DV9-ZN2

and 1901 census:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9RP-D8H

Pssible death for William Ashworth
Deaths Mar 1904   
Ashworth    William    39    Huddersfield    9a   268




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Re: Marriage help please
« Reply #10 on: Friday 11 January 19 18:14 GMT (UK) »
WOW JJen thank you very much I'm sure this will be of some interest to relatives.   May I ask where this info came from ?   I have definitely heard them mention the name Tom Strutt so I can say we are on the right line. 
Can I just clarify...............   1) Elizabeth Ann Lawton first married William Ashworth and they had
                                               daughters--  Edith Ashworth and Georgina Ashworth.

                                          2)  E. Ann was then widowed aged 40 and married  Thomas Turner.
                                                                 correct !!
Thank you once again

Marriage records available on Anc***ry. Your summary is correct  :)

JJ

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Re: Marriage help please
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 12 January 19 12:56 GMT (UK) »
Elizabeth is not with the Strutt family in 1871 and 1881:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZG5-FKB
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27Y-W8Y6

With her grandparents in 1871:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZG5-J3S

Helliwell / Hellewell is probably her father's surname, possibly he is George, a butcher as from her first marriage (Edward Lawton is her grandfather's name and he was a Colliery Viewer in 1871 so that's where the info on the second marriage likely comes from)

This is only circumstantial evidence but there is a possible George Hallewell, a butcher from the Silkstone / Dodworth area:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZGR-SQV
(possibly George Hallewell who married Ellen Archer in 1870)
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Re: Marriage help please
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 12 January 19 17:40 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Jorose,   it appears from new info from elderly relatives (reluctantly) Elizabeth Ann worked for a butchers  and was a servant to the family of Mother, Father & Sons of which one of the sons put her in the family way, she  was thrown out on the street disgraced !!!  I can only tell it as it was told to us.

Thank you everyone for your very valuable help and info.
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Re: Marriage help please
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 12 January 19 19:41 GMT (UK) »

This is only circumstantial evidence but there is a possible George Hallewell, a butcher from the Silkstone / Dodworth area:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZGR-SQV
(possibly George Hallewell who married Ellen Archer in 1870)

And going back further he appears to be the son of John Helliwell (and Ann) - who is also a butcher in HoylandSwaine so that would fit with family tales (there are two boys Henry and George as well as younger daughters) - Henry was born 1846 and George 1850

Phoebe appears to have been born 1950 going by Elizabeth's middle name plus the info on her first marriage certificate George Helliwell looks a likely suspect