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Death from poisoning resulting from natural causes
« on: Friday 11 January 19 22:45 GMT (UK) »
1877.  A young girl of 6 years of age started vomiting (green) then fitting.  She died the following day, and a post mortem was carried out because of "suspected poisoning". 
The doctor concluded that  she "died from poisoning resulting from natural causes", and the verdict was, "natural causes". 
Any ideas?  I'm guessing blood poisoning, say sepsis, but that's just a guess.  Can anyone add anything? Cheers.
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Re: Death from poisoning resulting from natural causes
« Reply #1 on: Friday 11 January 19 22:48 GMT (UK) »
She may have ingested something poisonous maybe?  You would think with blood poisoning, it might have had more 'lead in' time.    :-\   
At aged 6 she could have been 'trying out' things in the garden.      Maybe . . . . . ;)

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Re: Death from poisoning resulting from natural causes
« Reply #2 on: Friday 11 January 19 22:50 GMT (UK) »
Could be as a result of a ruptured appendix.Peritonitis?
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Re: Death from poisoning resulting from natural causes
« Reply #3 on: Friday 11 January 19 23:12 GMT (UK) »
Where did it happen?  Countryside or city?

Some poisonous plant?  [I had a mushrooom poisoning death but that doesn't seem likely for a child.] 
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Re: Death from poisoning resulting from natural causes
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 12 January 19 01:30 GMT (UK) »
Especially attractive to children are laburnum berries.  As a child we had several warnings a year not to touch the tree or eat the berries.  At six years of age, possibly the child had slightly more freedom to roam further than her mother's skirt and mistook something she thought was edible - maybe mistaken for a herb or, for instance, it's been known for people to mistake tulip bulbs for onions and that mistake has consequences too.
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Re: Death from poisoning resulting from natural causes
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 12 January 19 10:39 GMT (UK) »
We played “ house” and treated Laburnum seeds as tiny peas,but we did not eat them,in fact the pods were too tiny to open really.
Holly,very attractive ,berries,Lords and Ladiesor Parson in the Pulpit( wild arum) has lovely orange berries.
Arsenic was in the gold decoration of wallpaper.
It was also freely used as rat poison up to the fifties,James Herriot wrote about giving a dog soapy water to make it vomit after eating poisoned bait.
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So many things but the “ natural causes “ does make you think it was either accidental or from something growing.
How interesting, let us know if you find out more.
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Re: Death from poisoning resulting from natural causes
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 12 January 19 10:50 GMT (UK) »
Natural causes must mean Septicaemia/Sepsis? this was 1877, what did they know?

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Re: Death from poisoning resulting from natural causes
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 12 January 19 11:13 GMT (UK) »
Natural causes must mean Septicaemia/Sepsis? this was 1877, what did they know?

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My thoughts exactly Skoosh.  I also think it was an acknowledgement that the mother didn't intentionally poison her child.

As I'm not medically trained, there's only a few things I can think of that's green.  I once had green puss in my leg which turned out to be gangrene (from a scratch caused by a road accident), then there's green mucous from infected sinus, and the only vomit I've seen usually includes bits of orange carrots, I'm assuming the child either had an internal infection or had eaten some form of (poisonous) green vegetation.
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Re: Death from poisoning resulting from natural causes
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 12 January 19 11:26 GMT (UK) »


Could that have been green bile she was vomiting - maybe a blockage in the bowel   :'(

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