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Re: INDIA - Frances Mina Beatrice Thurston/Donlan/Thompson
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 23 January 19 07:36 GMT (UK) »
 GOV.UK have all Wills listed,which are free to view.
You can then apply for a copy if required,if you need all the details,paid fee required.
Its a vast site so I find the easiest way is to just,
 Google,,,, Probate search;   
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Re: INDIA - Frances Mina Beatrice Thurston/Donlan/Thompson
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 23 January 19 08:30 GMT (UK) »
Could this be her will.

 Frances Annie Thompson of Bangalore   North Sunderland
 Widow died 24 April 1947
 Probate London 30 Sep
 Effects to Hilda Constance Maud Thompson spinster 1000 pounds.

THOMPSON, HILDA  CONSTANCE MAUDE    WINCHESTER     
GRO Reference: 1893  J Quarter in BELFORD  Volume 10B  Page 448

Hilda Constance Maude Thompson
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

christening:   19 April 1893   Bamburgh, Northumberland, England   
father:   Alpel John Joseph Thompson
mother:   Frances Annie (Winchester?)

North Sunderland is a fishing village on the coast of Northumberland, England

Unless there are two or more of them?
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: INDIA - Frances Mina Beatrice Thurston/Donlan/Thompson
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 23 January 19 09:39 GMT (UK) »
Robert Rump Thurston out of curiosity do you know his siblings?

THURSTON, CARNABY  THOMAS     RUMP  (brother)    
GRO Reference: 1845  M Quarter in LAMBETH  Volume 04  Page 334

THURSTON, FRANCES       RUMP  (sister)
GRO Reference: 1846  J Quarter in LAMBETH  Volume 04  Page 332
   
THURSTON, JOHN  WILLIAM     RUMP  (brother)
GRO Reference: 1847  D Quarter in LAMBETH  Volume 04  Page 330

THURSTON, ISABEL  ALICE     RUMP (sister)
GRO Reference: 1849  D Quarter in LAMBETH  Volume 04  Page 334

THURSTON, ROBERT  RUMP     RUMP     
GRO Reference: 1852  S Quarter in WEST HAM UNION  Volume 04A  Page 1

THURSTON, GEORGE  WILLIAM     RUMP (brother)
GRO Reference: 1855  M Quarter in ST GILES IN THE FIELDS & ST GEORGE BLOOMSBURY  Volume 01B  Page 351

I notice you have not found his burial place either
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: INDIA - Frances Mina Beatrice Thurston/Donlan/Thompson
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 24 January 19 21:46 GMT (UK) »
Evening whiteout7
Thank you for taking the time to give me this information.  I was actually already aware of the siblings, although I am not 100% with George.  I will have to look into that one.

With regard to my Grt Grandmother, Frances Minna Beatrice Thurston/Donlan/Thompson, I have spoken to my Dad & he can remember her dying at their house in Agra around 1945./  I was hoping that would be the key to finding her death record, but unfortunatly Ive again spent hours tonight with no luck!  Any help appreciated.

Leach/Prigg - Cambridge
Draper/Munford - Norfolk
Nicholas/Donlan/Thurston/Leach - India
Harrison/Cunningham - Durham
Caine/Harrison - Ireland

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Re: INDIA - Frances Mina Beatrice Thurston/Donlan/Thompson
« Reply #13 on: Friday 25 January 19 08:39 GMT (UK) »
Still on the case for her correct death.
Do you already have the correct facts as to her whereabouts during WW2,are you sure it was Agra.

Would it be possible that she was living in Burma during her second marriage,
where records have gaps I believe, due to the awful turmoil after the Jap invasion,with Europeans trying to escape.
Also may I ask her religion please.
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Re: INDIA - Frances Mina Beatrice Thurston/Donlan/Thompson
« Reply #14 on: Friday 25 January 19 14:01 GMT (UK) »
The facts are all correct as my Dad can vividly remember his Nana. 
They used to sleep on the veranda of the house in Ajmer Rd, Agra.  He remembers her dying on the veranda.
My Dads family resided permenantly in Agra until they came to England in 1949.
 we believe Frances to be Catholic but may have been Anglican.
Leach/Prigg - Cambridge
Draper/Munford - Norfolk
Nicholas/Donlan/Thurston/Leach - India
Harrison/Cunningham - Durham
Caine/Harrison - Ireland

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Re: INDIA - Frances Mina Beatrice Thurston/Donlan/Thompson
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 26 January 19 09:03 GMT (UK) »
Does the local Catholic Church have a graveyard? Your dad might know?

St. Mary’s Church, Agra
8, Ajmer Road, Pratap Pura, Adarsh Nagar, Shahzadi Mandi, Rakabganj, Agra.

Also if she died in 1945 ish then in most countries you would have to pay for her death certficate as it is not 100 years past since she died?

The only way around this would be to find her burial through non-government sources
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: INDIA - Frances Mina Beatrice Thurston/Donlan/Thompson
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 26 January 19 10:30 GMT (UK) »
I wonder?

Thompson   
Beatrice   
03-May-45   
"In ever loving memory of our darling mums Beatrice Thompson who left us for her heavenly home on the 3rd May 1945 aged 60 years"   
Bangalore   
Kulpully Roman Catholic   
60 years  (so born 1885)
Bacsa Source was David Barnabas 

Photo of gravesite
http://www.bacsa.org.uk/gallery/picture.php?/790/category/114

amended: seems quite a way from Agra but could it have been where Catholics had to go and be buried in 1945?
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: INDIA - Frances Mina Beatrice Thurston/Donlan/Thompson
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 26 January 19 18:09 GMT (UK) »
This looks death promising.great find Whiteout7,,,more or less correct age.
Did your family have connections in Bangalore.
We really now need to know your family occupation in India,please.

Also the British Library holds many records from Indian Churches,which I understand show causes of death in many later records mid 19th century onwards.

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