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Schemes for emigrants from North Northumberland 1877-81
« on: Saturday 12 January 19 20:55 GMT (UK) »
I have been searching for the sister of my great grandmother without success. She was Isabella Redpath born 1837 Kirknewton who married John Donkin in 1869 They had 2 sons John 1869 and James 1870 and ran a small farm at HETTON near Chatton, Northumberland. Isabella,s mother,s death was registered by John senior in 1877 after which they disappear from all records including 1881 census.

They may have emigrated but to where?
Were there schemes or agents touting for business in the area around Chatton and Lowick around that time?
Which countries were most common for North Northumbrians to emigrate to? Passenger records tend to start a few years later.
Does anyone have ancestors who emigrated about this time from the same area?

Any suggestions, advice will be welcome. There are other couples with same names and ages  in the county at this time   But I have eliminated them. There is even a couple  who emigrated to USA but other details did not match. I am beginning to despair of finding them!

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DOCKWREY (South Shields)
REDPATH (Northumberland, Oklahoma)
SOUTHERN, SUTHREN, SITHERN (North Northumberland)
DARLING (Carham)

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Re: Schemes for emigrants from North Northumberland 1877-81
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 12 January 19 22:08 GMT (UK) »
Have you tried Australia? Most of mine emigrated in the 1880s from various parts if the country. Iím not sure which passenger records you are refering to when you say they started a few years later. :-\

There were schemes to attract workers with various skills to fill vacancies in the colony, but many families were not necessarily part of organised mass immigration and travelled solo. I believe ads were taken newspapers looking for people with specific skills or talents. Some people paid their own fares and others were assisted by the government. Others will be able to give more detail about this, or you could try googling.  ;)

To search for arrivals in Australia you need to look individually at the records held by each State.

Presumably you have checked for deaths in Northumberland, or checked to see if they moved away from the area or county?

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Re: Schemes for emigrants from North Northumberland 1877-81
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 12 January 19 23:51 GMT (UK) »

My grandfather's brother went to the Cape Colony, South Africa late 1870s and I was lucky enough to find his death notice.   I've looked for your names but nothing comes up, although there were plenty of Donkin families listed.   These don't record passenger arrivals, just legal matters, such as death, land, court cases, etc.

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Re: Schemes for emigrants from North Northumberland 1877-81
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 13 January 19 00:51 GMT (UK) »
Here's the RChat Resources page for Australia, and the sub-boards for each state/territory
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/australia-resources-offers/ 

So for immigration in the 1870s, 1880s, you are seeking the passenger lists for :
 
New South Wales,  https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=369703.0
Tasmania, https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=369953.0
Western Australia,  https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=369921.0
South Australia,   https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=280572.0
Victoria, https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=369963.0
Queensland   https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=369972.0

Here's the RChat Resources page for New Zealand
 https://www.rootschat.com/forum/new-zealand-resources-offers/  ... see https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=493441.0

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While most family history buffs well recognise that information on death certificates is often unreliable/confusing/mis-leading,  there can be benefits from seeking out some of the d.c. information for a number of those former colonies, as one of the responses recorded on many of the d.c.s is 'how long in the colony/state'.   For example, that question has been included on NSW death certificates from the commencement of civil registration (1 March 1856) and continues to be asked even to this century.   

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Re: Schemes for emigrants from North Northumberland 1877-81
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 19 January 19 09:18 GMT (UK) »
The GRO marriages for 1869 has Isabella Redpath m John DUNCAN  at Glendale 10b 541.
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Re: Schemes for emigrants from North Northumberland 1877-81
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 19 January 19 10:00 GMT (UK) »


I think this is parents William and Elizabeth so not your couple......

GRO births with mmn REDPATH


DONKIN, William John     REDPATH 
1870  D Quarter Newcastle upon Tyne  Vol 10B  Pg 127

DONKIN, Ralph      REDPATH     
1873  J Quarter Newcastle upon Tyne  Vol 10B  Pg 135

DONKIN, Jonathan      REDPATH     
1876  M Quarter Newcastle upon Tyne  Vol 10B  Pg 146   

DONKIN, Sarah Ann     REDPATH     
1878  J Quarter Newcastle upon Tyne  Vol 10B  Pg 119

What do you know about your John DONKIN.........age, birthplace, occupation, parents' names?

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Re: Schemes for emigrants from North Northumberland 1877-81
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 19 January 19 10:11 GMT (UK) »

GRO births   with REDPATH mother
DUNCAN, John       
1869  D Quarter Glendale  Vol 10B  Pg 345

Where are you seeing this -

"...They had 2 sons John 1869 and James 1870 and ran a small farm at HETTON near Chatton, Northumberland".




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Re: Schemes for emigrants from North Northumberland 1877-81
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 19 January 19 10:33 GMT (UK) »
The GRO marriages for 1869 has Isabella Redpath m John DUNCAN  at Glendale 10b 541.
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John's birth (ref GRO search) registered with surname DUNCAN MMN Redpath
James birth registered with surname DUNKIN Q4 1870 MMN Redpath

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