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Re: Family In France;
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 20 January 19 18:38 GMT (UK) »
I thought he was the man who married Julia Byrnes in Adelaide in 1883... can't see a marriage to Fanny Lyall...

It seems we aren't alone in failing to find a marriage!
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/201411767?searchTerm=%22John%20George%20Michael%20Dunn%22
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/230186824?searchTerm=%22John%20George%20Michael%20Dunn%22
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/17236004?searchTerm="Lyall%20Dunn"

His children vs. his second wife Ruby in court over his will - seems like Ruby got most of it and part of her case was that the first marriage couldn't be found. The mother (Fanny / Fannie) died in 1896 and he married his second wife in 1919.

John Dunn m. Ruby Powell in 1919, NSW - might be worth seeing what this marriage reveals!
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Re: Family In France;
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 20 January 19 23:49 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all for your replies.....I have now been told John DUNN's real name was DUNNEY and not
DUNET, DU-NAY, DUNNET or DENEY like the family first thought.....seems to me I am chasing a dead end.

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Re: Family In France;
« Reply #20 on: Monday 21 January 19 04:38 GMT (UK) »
Ancestry Anglican Parishes Sydney

Baptism Holy Trinity Erskineville
DUNN   Gladys Christabel    parents John DUNN, tea dealer, Erskineville (Rd?) and Fanny
b. 8 Dec 1889  bapt. 26 Feb 1890

Baptism Holy Trinity Macdonaldtown
DUNN Hazel Zeneith  parents John DUNN, tea merchant, Erskineville Rd  and Vivian Fanny
b. 23 Aug 1891  bapt. 23 Sep 1891


Church of St David Surry Hills  Nov 18 1908
GATES Thomas   bachelor  born NSW    21 years old Dentist  res. 84 Telopea St Redfern
parents John Thomas GATES, clerk,     Mary Ann LYONS

DUNN Gladys Christobel   born Macdonaldtown NSW   18 years waitress res. 84 Telopea St Redfern
parents John DUNN tobacconist   Fanny LYALL (dec)

Witnesses   Adoisea (?)  DUNN and Jim EDWARDS

St Michaels Church Flinders Street Surry Hills 25 Jun 1923
DUNN Herbert bachelor  born  Erskineville NSW
Vaudeville artist  35 years res.  Riverina Flats Palmer Street Darlinghurst
Father John DUNN, bookmaker    Fanny Lyall (dec)

BERTHOLD Anna Maria spinster  born Paris France
Vaudeville artist 34 years res. Palmer Street Darlinghurst
Father Joseph BERTHOLD   (dec)  musician   Fredericka SCHMIDT (dec)

Witnesses Charles LOWDEN  Mattie E LOWDEN


BDM NSW birth
9645/1888   DUNN  Hubert  R  parents John / Fannie V  @ Newtown
24974/1890 DUNN  GLADYS C  parents John / Fannie  @ Newtown
26118/1891 DUNN  Hazel Z  parents John / Vivien F    @ Erskineville

BDM NSW death
10806/1893 DUNN  Hazel Z  parents John / Fanny   @ Newtown

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Re: Family In France;
« Reply #21 on: Monday 21 January 19 04:45 GMT (UK) »
Wow, what a great source of info, thank you so much wivenhoe, this is really going to help me....all I need now is the family in France..... I know now I should have been searching for John DUNNEY and not the other names he was supposed to have...maybe I won't find anything....especially now I have been told his mother was Mauritian Creole (Africa or Indian) not sure if his parents were married or he was the result of an affair.....will keep searching...

Thank you again.
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Re: Family In France;
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 23 January 19 17:28 GMT (UK) »
I 've read for the third time the tables of Bordeaux from 1/01/1852 to 31/12/1872, absolutely no DUNNEY at all. He was not born in Bordeaux.

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Re: Family In France;
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 23 January 19 22:44 GMT (UK) »
Thank you joger, for trying to help and all the time you have put into it......the family are still saying he was born in Bordeaux, I have let them know there is nothing to be found on him, I think now I will end the search on him....thank you again.

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Re: Family In France;
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 24 January 19 07:28 GMT (UK) »
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/17236004?searchTerm
 Indeed , it is written in this article, which does not mean it is true.

In this article the year of his death is written 1984 (you know it is not true , since he died in 1934)
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/201411767?searchTerm=%22John%20George%20Michael%20Dunn%22

He may have come from the surroundings of Bordeaux , or may have been born anywhere else in France and took a boat in the port of Bordeaux , or may have already been John DUNN  (there are several John DUNN in the official list of passagers who emigrated to Australia).


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Re: Family In France;
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 24 January 19 07:35 GMT (UK) »
Thank you joger, I have made a note of the articles and will show the families of John DUNN...

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Re: Family In France;
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 26 January 19 11:33 GMT (UK) »
The second marriage to Ruby in 1919 in NSW may have a more exact birthplace / parents names, it is the only document I can think of that is likely to give you more useful information at this point.

Of course, he could have been born in France to British parents and "Dunn" is the original name.
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