One or Two Tom Collins ? (hic!)

[bugbear]

I have 2 Thomas Collins. born around 1880; one is the son of Patrick Collins and Catherine Hanly, and is well supported by entries in 2 successive census;

1891: RG12/233/67 p 11
1901: RG13/249/108 p 34

His family/siblings show nicely in 1881 too;
RG11/368/58 p 6

They are living in Finsbury/Islington, with Irish roots (county Cork).

My "second" Thomas Collins is first documented getting married to Alice Emily Martin in 1911-12-17, St Lukes, Finsbury. The history of Miss Martin is straightforward.

Subsequently,  the births of 3 children show in FreeBMD, and the whole 5 person family shows nicely in the 1939 register (still in Finsbury).

The only things that tie my two Thomas Collins together are:
Name (but it's common)
Date of birth
Locality (Finsbury)

The real clincher (so far) is occupation: Printer's Labourer, in the 1901 Census, and Occupation: Printer when he married.

There is a problem is his father; the Census sequence clearly shows Patrick, a Tailor, but the wedding cert shows Timothy, a Builder.

I would VERY much like to find the Thomas and/or his Family in the 1911 census, a mere 8 months before his wedding, but I haven't managed this (despite trying pretty hard).

Can anybody show that I have only one Thomas (or prove that I have two, and should do more research) ?

 BugBear

[Milliepede]

Thomas & Alice both give the same address when they marry - have you checked that address out in 1911 to see who is living there?

Is there a Timothy Collins death prior to 1911 that could be the man named as his father. 

[bugbear]

"darn"

I was just gathering up a whole collection of marriage for the Siblings.

And I just found a 1915 Clerkenwell marriage for a Thomas Collins, father given as Patrick Collins, Tailor.

I do indeed have TWO "Thomas Collins".

  BugBear

[BumbleB]

Thomas Collins - registered June quarter 1884 - mmn = Hanly

Possible 1911 for Catherine - born 1851 - patient - Machinist (Mantle) married 40 years

Possible 1911 for Thomas - born 1884 - lodge with Walter Weeds - but occupation is Porter