Looking for information on the immigrant ship 'E'n McGregor' c'1867

[spades]

Hi everyone,

I have been trawling the internet for hours looking for any reference to the ship E'n McGregor, which should have travelled to New Zealand, arriving about February 1867.

The ship's name contains an elision, presumably 'E'n' should expand to 'Ewan' or maybe 'Ewen' or 'Evan'.

I can not find any reference to the vessel on Papers Past or a wider internet search using those expanded name or the contraction. The individual who stated that he sailed on her was Alexander BRYSON, who attested for the Armed Constabulary in November 1868 at Dunedin, but I can't find him either.

Can anyone help me find this vessel, please?

Spades

[wivenhoe]

What is your reference for it being an immigrant ship?

What is your reference for arrival about Feb 1867?

Can you show an image of the detail you are looking at.

[spades]

Hi Wivenhoe,

The origin is an Armed Constabulary muster roll, clearly stating the name with the contracted first word, and the date of arrival given above. The information provided in these rolls can be inaccurate, so that’s what it was attempting to do.

I am assuming she was an immigrant ship, but I could be wrong. Even if she wasn’t, she should appear somewhere.

When I first read the ship’s name my first thought was that I was familiar with the name, so I’m surprised I can’t find any current references to it.

I wonder if she only sailed to an Australian port.

Sorry, no image.

Spades

[Skoosh]

Ensign McGregor, Ellen McGregor?

Skoosh.

[spades]

Oho! The Auckland Library database, NZ Militia, Volunteers and Armed Constabulary of New Zealand 1863-1871 lists an Alexander BRYSON who arrived on the EDWARD MCGREGOR.

That might still be wrong, as nothing shows on Papers Past.

Spades

[wivenhoe]

Can you confirm please that this is the exact wording that you see -

" about    February  1867"

If Alexander arrived on an immigrant ship after many months of voyage I wonder that he would be uncertain about the date just a few years after his arrival?

If he arrived from an Australian port it would be a ship that left......Tas / NSW / VIC / QLD....in the same year  ie  Jan / Feb 1867....or an island trading ship from a Pacific port?

[Fresh Fields]

Morning Spades.

Have had a look at LLOYDS SHIPPING REGISTER 1863 & 1866 without any luck spotting a vessel EDWARD Xxx

You would be aware that if the name appeared in coatal shipping press of that period, the fist name most probably would be that of the vessel, and the second the surname of the captain in command. There were two Captain McGREGOR's [Ivenhoe a schooner, & Cordellia a cutter] doing the rounds of the Northern ports, but no evidence that I know of, of the schooner trading the Tasman for someone to be arriving as crew.

Alan.

[spades]

Morning Alan,

Yes, I saw those two, lots of them.

The date on the original clearly reads 'Feby 1867' for date of arrival in the Colony, and the vessel reads 'Eⁿ McGregor'. The  'n' is definitely not a 'd', so I don't think this is a contraction of 'Edward'.

I don't think Edward McGregor is correct, in any case.

Looking at the other clue, can anyone find any Alexander BRYSON's arriving on any vessel?

Spades

[Janette]

here is one with brothers included,maybe a family?
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZH18650622.2.18?query=Alexander%20BRYSON&sort_by=byDA&items_per_page=100&phrase=2&snippet=true

Cheers Jafa Janette