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Re: looking for Loveday Stranger on 1841 census
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 17 January 19 16:05 GMT (UK) »
I agree about baptism entry [can't attach here as it is a lookup board]. Mother's forename seems to have 'ade' 'iade' at end. Maybe starts with an 'M' same letter as in the column where 'Minister' has been written. The surname of the next entry [different hand] is Vartha. 
ADDED: Perhaps minister started to write 'Martha' in forename column then overwrite it.

Ah I see what you mean - maybe Loveday is saying her father was a foundling. What a good find that 1810 baptism was.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: looking for Loveday Stranger on 1841 census
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 17 January 19 16:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi so was he the possible William Stranger who married a Sarah Hodge 9th October 1834 Sithney?
1841 ref HO107/139 / 7/17 / 26
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Re: looking for Loveday Stranger on 1841 census
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 17 January 19 16:35 GMT (UK) »
They could be linked.

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Re: looking for Loveday Stranger on 1841 census
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 17 January 19 16:38 GMT (UK) »
And - osprey - Thos Russell was a witness at that marriage too.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON


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Re: looking for Loveday Stranger on 1841 census
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 17 January 19 16:42 GMT (UK) »
FindMyPast has this baptism as Loveday Stranger (male) son of Martha Chewaile.

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Re: looking for Loveday Stranger on 1841 census
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 17 January 19 16:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi so was he the possible William Stranger who married a Sarah Hodge 9th October 1834 Sithney?
1841 ref HO107/139 / 7/17 / 26
Indexed as Straup on ancestry.
FindMyPast has this baptism as Loveday Stranger (male) son of Martha Chewaile.
Having seen the original they got their columns a bit mixed up I think....
And I can see that the last few letter of the forename were probably 'Chenhaile' not the ending in 'iade' I possited earlier. So the minister got his columns mixed up as well.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: looking for Loveday Stranger on 1841 census
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 17 January 19 17:02 GMT (UK) »
 :) Where did the 1841 family go?

William Stranger 30
Sarah 25
James 5
Sarah 3
Mary 1
Elizabeth 2 months
3 more children with mmn Hodge in Helston, James 1842 Sally 1845 and Sarah Jane 1844 dies same year.
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Pelly/Pelley/Kingsbury/Challis/Nalder/Rochester/Raydenbow

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Re: looking for Loveday Stranger on 1841 census
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 17 January 19 17:10 GMT (UK) »
William I think dies in 1845
STRANGER, WILLIAM       36     
GRO Reference: 1845  D Quarter in HELSTON  Volume 09  Page 74

Maybe James Hodge Stranger  buried 1842 aged 7
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2Z4-R9K7
And maybe another James born after his death?
Birth
STRANGER, JAMES       MMN HODGE     
GRO Reference: 1842  J Quarter in HELSTON  Volume 09  Page 126
Deaths
STRANGER, JAMES  HODGE     7     
GRO Reference: 1842  J Quarter in HELSTON  Volume 09  Page 96
STRANGER, JAMES       0     
GRO Reference: 1842  S Quarter in HELSTON  Volume 09  Page 75   

ADDED~; Oh no Elizabeth as well
Birth
STRANGER, ELIZABETH       MMN HODGE     
GRO Reference: 1841  J Quarter in HELSTON  Volume 09  Page 125
Death
STRANGER, ELIZABETH       1     
GRO Reference: 1842  J Quarter in HELSTON  Volume 09  Page 96
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: looking for Loveday Stranger on 1841 census
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 17 January 19 17:34 GMT (UK) »
Mary's birth
STRAINGER, MARY  ANN     HADGE     
GRO Reference: 1840  M Quarter in HELSTON  Volume 09  Page 149

she was baptised in 1840
Day Month   19-Jan
Year   1840
Parish Or Reg District   Helston
Forename   Mary Anne
Surname   STRANGER
Sex   dau
Father Forename   William
Mother Forename   Sarah
Residence   Helston
Father Rank Profession   labr.

1851 HO107; Piece: 1918; Folio: 685; Page: 17 North St Madron
Sally Stranger   39
Mary Ann Stranger   11
Sarah Stranger   6

Sally/Sarah snr maybe died 1856
STRANGER, SALLY       44     
GRO Reference: 1856  D Quarter in PENZANCE  Volume 05C  Page 212
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON