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George Nelson 1852-1919
« on: Tuesday 15 January 19 21:40 GMT (UK) »
I have a birth/baptism record for this man from Terregles, Kirkcudbrightshire which I think is now Dumfriesshire (not familiar with Scottish boundary changes!) I think his place of birth is Maryholm Cothouses? I found a Maryholm (farm) on the NW outskirts of Dumfries (Nithside) which may be the place.
Does any one have any alternative suggestions for either the place or it's location? Thanks in advance :)
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Re: George Nelson 1852-1919
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 15 January 19 23:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi

http://www.kirkcudbright.co/terregles.asp

It is still in Kirkcudbrightshire for genealogical purposes but is in the Dumfries and Galloway Council area.

I read it as Maryholm , Cothouse.

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Added - forgot to say it is NW of Dumfries
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Re: George Nelson 1852-1919
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 16 January 19 10:01 GMT (UK) »
I see "Maryholm Cothouse" - no comma and no plural - so if Maryholm was a farm, I wonder if iit means that he was born in an attached farm cottage (or "cothouse") there.

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Re: George Nelson 1852-1919
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 January 19 10:15 GMT (UK) »
Agree, no comma. I think I used the comma while I paused to check the image  :-X

Only place I can find on the old maps so far is Maryfield.
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Re: George Nelson 1852-1919
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 16 January 19 10:17 GMT (UK) »
Just checked Scotlands Places:

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16    maryholm BURN, maryholm Burn, page 16 Parish of Terregles Form 136 Page 114 Lochside 116 Lochside Cottage maryholm Burn
17    maryholm COTTAGE, maryholm Cottage, moderate sized Cottage thatched and in good repair one story high built of stone the property of James Biggar Farmer maryholm , Situated [...], maryholm, maryholm, garden attached built of stone 2 stories high The property of James Biggar Situated about 10 Chains West of maryholm Cottage., page 17 Parish of Terregles Form 136 Page 64 maryholm Cottage 64 [...]
64    maryholm COTTAGE, maryholm Cottage, William Watson maryholm [Cottage] James [...], moderate Sized cottage thatched and in good repair one Story high built of Stone the property of James Biggar of maryholm ., maryholm, maryholm, William Watson maryholm [Cottage] James [...], Dumfries 5 feet Scale -- Plan 2 List of Names collected by C.A Civilian Assistant J Carpenter Parish of Terregles Trace No 1 maryholm Cottage


Add - also mentioned in Land Tax Rolls 1645-1831 and Farm Horse Tax 1797-1798


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Re: George Nelson 1852-1919
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 16 January 19 10:27 GMT (UK) »
THere are quite a lot of mentions of Maryholm Burn on Google. It runs from the parish of Terregles through Maxwelltown on the west side of the Nith into the Nith.
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Re: George Nelson 1852-1919
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 16 January 19 10:39 GMT (UK) »
The closest that I can get to Maryholm, Terregles is around Maryfield on this map:

https://maps.nls.uk/view/74427640#zoom=5&lat=9961&lon=3602&layers=BT


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Add - see location of Maryholm Cottage on this post

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=806645.msg6655629#msg6655629
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Re: George Nelson 1852-1919
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 16 January 19 10:57 GMT (UK) »
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Re: George Nelson 1852-1919
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 16 January 19 10:59 GMT (UK) »
Just zoomed in and moved NE  - Maryholm Cottage:

https://maps.nls.uk/view/74427640#zoom=6&lat=8397&lon=9668&layers=BT

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