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Summers / Cutler / Morris / Knox - over several counties - a complex tale
« on: Wednesday 16 January 19 13:54 GMT (UK) »
1871 at 21 Meadow Lane, Tranmere, Cheshire
Thomas Morris 31  cooper b Llangollen Denbighshire
Sarah   25  b Liverpool
Mary E  4  b Birkenhead
Sarah A  4 months  b Tranmere

using GRO finds Mary Eleanor Morris mother’s name Knox and Sarah Morris mother’s name Knox

1881 at Magazine Brow, Liscard, Cheshire
Thomas (a cooper) states birth as Seacombe
Priscilla born 1840 in Fingley, Worcestershire
Arthur born 1866 as above (actual name Cutler - mother’s name Summers on GRO)
Mary E born 1868 Birkenhead
Amy born 1874 Staffordshire (mother’s name Summers on GRO in Kings Norton Reg Dist)
Lillie born 1880 New Brighton, Cheshire
& 2 Jones boarders

1881 at 17 Tamworth St Cellar, Toxteth Park, Lancashire
Sarah Morris neice 10 b. Birkenhead, Cheshire
(should say grand-daughter of Sarah Knox, the head of house)

Priscilla died 1885
Arthur died 1887

Mary Eleanor m 1889 Edward Charles Jones at Liscard St Mary

Thomas Morris missing in 1891
and daughter Sarah missing in 1891
as are daughters Amy and Lillie in 1891

Sarah Morris nee Knox death unknown

Priscilla Summers married George Cutler in 1860 Sedgley, Staffordshire (he died 1870)
no marriage to Thomas Morris ever found

no marriage of Thomas Morris to Sarah Knox ever found also

a very confusing story, finding it hard to figure out the threads

thank you.

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Re: Summers / Cutler / Morris / Knox - over several counties - a complex tale
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 16 January 19 15:42 GMT (UK) »
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Thomas Morris missing in 1891
and daughter Sarah missing in 1891
as are daughters Amy and Lillie in 1891

Just for info someone has added a note against the census that Lillie is in fact Lizzie

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Re: Summers / Cutler / Morris / Knox - over several counties - a complex tale
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 16 January 19 15:45 GMT (UK) »
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Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Summers / Cutler / Morris / Knox - over several counties - a complex tale
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 17 January 19 02:12 GMT (UK) »
Re. the 1881 census when you say Sarah Morris 10  niece    born Birkenhead (to Sarah Knox and that it should read grand-daughter.   Sarah's own mother, Sarah Knox bc.1846 Liverpool is shown on 1851 census as dau. to Thomas Knox and Lucy Eliza - Thomas Knox widower 28  Book Keeper had married Lucy Elizabeth Bungey, sp. on 7/4/1847 Everton.   

Clearly by 1851 the mother of Sarah bc.1846 had died so surely Sarah Knox in 1881 was not the grandmother of Sarah Morris.

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Re: Summers / Cutler / Morris / Knox - over several counties - a complex tale
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 17 January 19 19:27 GMT (UK) »
I thought Sarah Knox in 1861 was

Sarah Knocks
Age 14
Relation Daughter
Mother's Name Sarah Knocks (age 52)
Where born Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish St Thomas

Address Williams Place Court 10 House 1

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Re: Summers / Cutler / Morris / Knox - over several counties - a complex tale
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 17 January 19 19:34 GMT (UK) »
in 1871 Sarah Knox (senior) I thought was

Sarah Knerr
Age 62
Relation Head
Where born Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish Toxteth Park
Ecclesiastical parish St Thomas

Address 13 Robertson Street

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Re: Summers / Cutler / Morris / Knox - over several counties - a complex tale
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 17 January 19 19:43 GMT (UK) »
Well I had Sarah in 1851 68 St. Ann Street, Liverpool - ref. 2185/534/1

Thomas Knox    36       Book Keeper       born Middlesex
Lucy Eliza         26                                 born Bristol
Eliza Knox         8                                   born Liverpool
Sarah Knox       5                                   born Liverpool
Thos. Henry Knox  3ms.                          born Liverpool

Annette     
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Suffolk - Grist, Knights, Bullenthorpe, Watcham
Scotland - Spence, Horne, Cowan, Moffat
London -  Monk

Don't walk behind me, I may not lead.   Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow.   Just walk beside me and be my friend.

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