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Silver Cup marked E.A.V ?
« on: Thursday 17 January 19 10:44 GMT (UK) »
This cup has been in my husbands family for many years, I have worked out that James Craig Kennedy was his Great Grand father. 1841 - 1927 Printer compositor Edinburgh

What I would like help with is what it was for ? He won it when he was 18.

I assumed it had a military connection as I think it says Corp. ? But it may have no military connection at all ?

A family member thought that E A V stood for Edinburgh Artillery Volunteer and having researched it the dates would fit but the organisation seems to be referred to as A V C Edinburgh Volunteer Corps

Please could someone point me in the right direction to see if there are any records kept of this organisation.

Many thanks

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Re: Silver Cup marked E.A.V ?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 January 19 13:03 GMT (UK) »
A few observations, the date says 1877. It would have said 1859 if he was 18 at the time.
If he won it as a Volunteer/Militia it would have had his rank.
Although the surname is Kennedy the Christian name & middle initial does look like James C to me.
The first name looks like a shortened version of a longer name with a small "L" at the end.
If there was a military connection I would expect to see some sort of military insignia on it.
I can't see the word Corps.
A nice family heirloom all the same.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Silver Cup marked E.A.V ?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 January 19 13:41 GMT (UK) »
Corpl is the rank of corporal, abbreviated. 1st EAV is possibly a Volunteer Artillery unit, pre Territorials, but E could be Edinburgh for example, or elsewhere.  I see others had the same idea.
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Re: Silver Cup marked E.A.V ?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 17 January 19 13:43 GMT (UK) »
A  newspaper advert calling for the City of Edinburgh Artillery Volunteers to parade for gun practice in 1870 is signed Adjutant EAV so I'd suggest it was simply a shortened version of the name.

The word before the name is Corpl rather than Corp or Corps ie Corporal.


The Volunteers were the responsibility not of the War Office but of the local authority, county or city depending in where they were.  If there are records then an approach to the Edinburgh City archives may be worth doing.

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Re: Silver Cup marked E.A.V ?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 17 January 19 13:51 GMT (UK) »
The Scotsman - Monday 08 October 1877 p7.
CEAV., No. 9 Battery. —The annual carbine competition of this battery took place in the Hunter's Bog  on Saturday. The conditions were five rounds at 200, 400 and 500 yards.  Corporal Kennedy carried off the first prize along with three challenge medals of the battery, a silver cup presented by Sergeant Maclean, also a scarf pin presented by Sergeant Matheson......

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Re: Silver Cup marked E.A.V ?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 17 January 19 14:11 GMT (UK) »
Nice scoop Sc00p.

Note the variation here - CEAV this time - they did it to confuse their descendants.

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Re: Silver Cup marked E.A.V ?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 17 January 19 15:35 GMT (UK) »
Wow what amazing responses, thank you everyone.
 I've been out since just after I posted my question.
I couldn't believe all the answers when I got back.
Special thanks to Sc00p what a scoop  :o You're a star and my hero !
I've been wondering about the cup for 30 odd years and you solved it in a couple of hours.

Cheers to you all, I'm off to the library to get a copy of the article.

OFG

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Re: Silver Cup marked E.A.V ?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 17 January 19 16:26 GMT (UK) »
I think he deserves one of his own.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Silver Cup marked E.A.V ?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 18 January 19 11:36 GMT (UK) »
Fab  ;D wish I'd thought of that !