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Margaret Lawson bc 1869 Kinfauns
« on: Thursday 17 January 19 15:32 GMT (UK) »
The above appears on the 1881 Scottish census as a grand daughter of George Robertson and Margaret nee Henderson at Kirkstyle Cottage, Kinfauns; however I can't find a record of her birth or who her parents were?
George and Margaret had 11 children, 6 of whom were daughters and none married a Lawson as far as I can see. Isabella b 1849 and passed away 1929 as a spinster, Agnes Davidson b 1852 could've been her mother, Helen b 1858, Margaret b 1862 and Catherine M  b 1864 a bit too young. Balthea had 2 illegitimate children before her marriage to Alexander Lawso McKay in 1885 and had 3 children with him but only 1 legitimate.
So I wonder if you can find any records to find out about the subject?
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Re: Margaret Lawson bc 1869 Kinfauns
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 January 19 17:06 GMT (UK) »
Margaret Haldane Henderson Robertson, born Kinfauns, 28 March 1870, mother Bathea Robertson, no father named? The original image is available to view at Scotland's People, reference Kinfauns 1970/366/4.

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Re: Margaret Lawson bc 1869 Kinfauns
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 January 19 17:24 GMT (UK) »
Interesting that Margaret has the middle name Lawson - same as Balthia's husband Alexander Lawson McKay  -Presume the pedigree resource file is yours - which shows George 18 February 1873 - Agnes  25 March 1880 (shows on the 1881 census as Agnes M Kay) and Robina Wilson 21 February 1887

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:32JL-SNQ

George Robertson - Birth Date:   18 Feb 1873 Kinfauns,Perth,Scotland
Mother Bathea Robertson.


Death of Alexander - Alexander Lawso McKay  - 70 years -  1906 400/ 2 Abdie

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Re: Margaret Lawson bc 1869 Kinfauns
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 17 January 19 17:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi ,
Kinfauns parish Churchyard,
Agnes Davidson Robertson  (b) 1867..(d) 1940
also her husband William Cameron  (b) 1867,(d) 1950
       gravestone on find a grave for Kinfauns
                     
                                   1841 Cencus ......Walnut Grove,   Kinfauns
Robert Robertson  (50).....labourer.
Bethea Robertson  (50)
George Robertson   (20)   tailor
Hellen Patten     (25)
Bettesy Mitchell     (35)
Betsey Robertson    (15)
Mary Robertson  ( 11 months)

happy hunting
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" Myles".. ( Scone, Perthshire , Scotland).
"Edward".. (Kincardneshire ,Dundee,Scotland),  Taylor..(Garvock,Kincardineshire,Scotland) , "Young"..(Kincardineshire),Scotland.
"Robertson"..Perthshire ,Scotland)


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Re: Margaret Lawson bc 1869 Kinfauns
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 17 January 19 17:44 GMT (UK) »
Headstone Inscription for George Robertson and Margaret Haldane Henderson with write up.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/135764893/george-robertson

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/135765150/margaret-haldane-robertson

a son David Henderson Robertson mentioned but no Robert Robertson

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/135765013/david-henderson-robertson#view-photo=164655716

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Re: Margaret Lawson bc 1869 Kinfauns
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 17 January 19 21:11 GMT (UK) »
Another thread about the same family
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=806737
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Re: Margaret Lawson bc 1869 Kinfauns
« Reply #6 on: Friday 18 January 19 12:16 GMT (UK) »
The findagrave photos are very helpful, Sandra and has shown me what happened to David Robertson, so a bonus there. Interesting that William Ritchie, grandson, added the notes to it, wonder where he fits in?
snowolf that could be the wrong Agnes as the original was b 10 Jul 1852 unless she passed away and this one was born when her mother was 47?
Alexander Lawso McKay apparently isn't middle named Lawson according to his baptism on SP otherwise I'd have guessed where Margaret belonged unless that is a misprint?
The FSO tree is mine Sandra as you guessed.
Forfarian I'd got Bathia's illegitimate children, I think and Margaret's father wasn't named.
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Re: Margaret Lawson bc 1869 Kinfauns
« Reply #7 on: Friday 18 January 19 12:51 GMT (UK) »


Sometimes that happens with names on SP and others - no doubt that is more than likely Lawson.  Have you managed to treace Alexander back at all ?

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Re: Margaret Lawson bc 1869 Kinfauns
« Reply #8 on: Friday 18 January 19 13:36 GMT (UK) »
Forfarian I'd got Bathia's illegitimate children, I think and Margaret's father wasn't named.
No, but everything else fits exactly.

There were only two Margarets registered in Kinfauns in 1869/70, and the other one, Margaret Small, is with her parents in Kinnoull in the 1881 census.

An illegitimate child could only be registered under its father's surname if the father accompanied the mother to the Registrar's when she went to register the birth, and signed the register at the same time as she did.  Even if the entire parish knew who the father was, if he didn't acknowledge paternity at the time of registration, the child would be registered only under its mother's surname.

So it is quite likely that the father of Margaret Haldane Henderson Robertson was someone whose surname was Lawson.

It is likely that Bathia's unmarried pregnancies came to the attention of the Kinfauns Kirk Session, and if so that there could be something about her and the father in the Kinfauns Kirk Session minutes. These are not yet available online, unfortunately, but can be accessed digitally in General Register House in Edinburgh and in some local archives including Aberdeen, Hawick, Inverness and Glasgow.
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