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Offline louisa maud

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Re: Stuck trying to trace Great Grandfather, born London in approx 1877
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 19 January 19 23:00 GMT (UK) »
Oh dear,  have been plotting a family of Jackson, father John and mother Ida, she was a British Subject
Father's occupation is in the police force but HARRY was born in Streatham, 1873, so that rules that one out

And so we plod on

1901 I don't know if he is in Nottingham or nearer to where Anna was Suffolk

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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
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Re: Stuck trying to trace Great Grandfather, born London in approx 1877
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 19 January 19 23:24 GMT (UK) »
Pity we can't find who lived at the address Harry Daniel Jackson gave on his marriage cert

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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes

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Re: Stuck trying to trace Great Grandfather, born London in approx 1877
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 20 January 19 01:26 GMT (UK) »
If you're sure about the Jewish connection ...

A long shot, but perhaps this might be the family in earlier censuses, with a subsequent change of surname from Jacobs to Jackson?

Great Alie Street is close to Goodmans Fields.

Harry Daniel Jackson had a daughter named Theresa.

1881 census
RG11/446 folio 8 page 10
2 Great Alie Street, Whitechapel, Middlesex
John Jacobs, head, married, 53, Hairdresser, born Russian Poland, Kosokoff
Theresa Jacobs, wife, married, 44, Housekeeper, born German Poland, Schroda
Doretta Jacobs, daughter, unmarried, 24, Tailoress
Lizzie Jacobs, daughter, unmarried, 21, Tailoress
Louis Jacobs, son, unmarried, 19, Hairdresserís Assistant
Jane Jacobs, daughter, unmarried, 17, Tailoress
Fanny Jacobs, daughter, unmarried, 13, Scholar
Gabriel Jacobs, son, unmarried, 11, Scholar
Anne Jacobs, daughter, unmarried, 9, Scholar
Sarah Jacobs, daughter, unmarried, 7, Scholar
Joseph Jacobs, son, unmarried, 5, Scholar
Daniel Jacobs, son, unmarried, 3
Minnie Jacobs, daughter, unmarried, 1
Kate Wallace, servant, unmarried, 16, General Servant, Domestic
(all the children born Middlesex Whitechapel)

1891 census
RG12/282 folio 87 page 1
2 Great Alie Street, Whitechapel, London
John Jacobs, head, married, 64, Hairdresser, born Poland
Thresa Jacobs, wife, married, 55, born Germany Posen
Doretta Jacobs, daughter, single, 34, Tailoress
Lizzie Jacobs, daughter, single, 31, Tailoress
Fanny Jacobs, daughter, single, 23, Teacher (School)
Gabriel Jacobs, son, single, 21, Cigar Bundler (Tob[acco])
Annie Jacobs, daughter, single, 19, Shoe Bow Maker
Sarah Jacobs, daughter, single, 17, Teacher (School)
Joseph Jacobs, son, single, 16, Clerk (Shorthand)
Daniel Jacobs, son, single, 13, Hairdressers Assistant
Minnie Jacobs, daughter, single, 11
(all the children born Middlesex Whitechapel)

Needs more work ...

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Re: Stuck trying to trace Great Grandfather, born London in approx 1877
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 20 January 19 01:40 GMT (UK) »
I don't think that's a long shot at all!

That makes a lot of sense to me and I might be getting over excited but I really want to look at this some more!!


Re 1901 census I can search by address in find my past but no Buxton street or that number for king meadows way

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Re: Stuck trying to trace Great Grandfather, born London in approx 1877
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 20 January 19 01:58 GMT (UK) »
Re 1901 census I can search by address in find my past but no Buxton street or that number for king meadows way

I haven't been able to find it in 1901 either. To help locate it, in 1891 it's enumerated immediately after 67 Kings Meadow Road, starting at RG12/2684 folio 126 page 31.

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Re: Stuck trying to trace Great Grandfather, born London in approx 1877
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 20 January 19 02:04 GMT (UK) »
Found it now in 1901. It's at RG13/3168 folio 48 page 36. I think FindMyPast may have transcribed it as Burton Street.

I don't think he's there, but it may be worth browsing around a little.

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Re: Stuck trying to trace Great Grandfather, born London in approx 1877
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 20 January 19 05:39 GMT (UK) »
If you're sure about the Jewish connection ...

A long shot, but perhaps this might be the family in earlier censuses, with a subsequent change of surname from Jacobs to Jackson?

Great Alie Street is close to Goodmans Fields.

Harry Daniel Jackson had a daughter named Theresa.

1881 census
RG11/446 folio 8 page 10
2 Great Alie Street, Whitechapel, Middlesex
John Jacobs, head, married, 53, Hairdresser, born Russian Poland, Kosokoff
Theresa Jacobs, wife, married, 44, Housekeeper, born German Poland, Schroda
Doretta Jacobs, daughter, unmarried, 24, Tailoress
Lizzie Jacobs, daughter, unmarried, 21, Tailoress
Louis Jacobs, son, unmarried, 19, Hairdresser’s Assistant
Jane Jacobs, daughter, unmarried, 17, Tailoress
Fanny Jacobs, daughter, unmarried, 13, Scholar
Gabriel Jacobs, son, unmarried, 11, Scholar
Anne Jacobs, daughter, unmarried, 9, Scholar
Sarah Jacobs, daughter, unmarried, 7, Scholar
Joseph Jacobs, son, unmarried, 5, Scholar
Daniel Jacobs, son, unmarried, 3
Minnie Jacobs, daughter, unmarried, 1
Kate Wallace, servant, unmarried, 16, General Servant, Domestic
(all the children born Middlesex Whitechapel)

1891 census
RG12/282 folio 87 page 1
2 Great Alie Street, Whitechapel, London
John Jacobs, head, married, 64, Hairdresser, born Poland
Thresa Jacobs, wife, married, 55, born Germany Posen
Doretta Jacobs, daughter, single, 34, Tailoress
Lizzie Jacobs, daughter, single, 31, Tailoress
Fanny Jacobs, daughter, single, 23, Teacher (School)
Gabriel Jacobs, son, single, 21, Cigar Bundler (Tob[acco])
Annie Jacobs, daughter, single, 19, Shoe Bow Maker
Sarah Jacobs, daughter, single, 17, Teacher (School)
Joseph Jacobs, son, single, 16, Clerk (Shorthand)
Daniel Jacobs, son, single, 13, Hairdressers Assistant
Minnie Jacobs, daughter, single, 11
(all the children born Middlesex Whitechapel)

Needs more work ...

In a GRO search the mothers maiden name is Goetz

JACOBS, MINNIE       GOETZ     
GRO Reference: 1879  S Quarter in WHITECHAPEL  Volume 01C  Page 365

JACOBS, JOSEPH       GOTZ     
GRO Reference: 1875  J Quarter in WHITECHAPEL  Volume 01C  Page 378

JACOBS, SARAH       GOTZ 
GRO Reference: 1873  S Quarter in WHITECHAPEL  Volume 01C  Page 350
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
Givens/Normand (Dysart)
Clark/Lister (Dysart)
Wilkinson/Simson (Kettle or Kettlehill)

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Re: Stuck trying to trace Great Grandfather, born London in approx 1877
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 20 January 19 07:36 GMT (UK) »
That is convincing Whiteout

Doreta is registered Dorothea, 1856 Whitechapel ref 1c 373 MMN shown as GATZ

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Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Lethbridge Paddington Slough
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes

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Re: Stuck trying to trace Jewish ancestors
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 20 January 19 07:42 GMT (UK) »
Sorry here is the marriage cert that I have so far

Church of England marriage.....

There were thousands of Germans in England at this time - only some of them were Jewish.  :-\
Rowse in Brixham, Tenby, Hull & Ramsgate. Strongman, in Falmouth. Champion. Coke. Eame/s. Gibbons. Passmore. Pulsever. Sparkes in Brixham & Ramsgate. Toms in Cornwall. Waymoth. Wyatt.