Fanny Creech born 14 July 1857

[TrevorW]

Greetings I am trying to find a record of my great grandmother's death.

14 July 1857 Fanny Creech was born at 8 Elizabeth St, St Barnabas, Lancashire
28 November 1880 Fanny Creech married to Thomas Walmsley

In the 1911 UK Census there is a Frances Walmsley widow at 41 Grey Street (same residence as 1901 census - name Fanny Walmsley)

Wrong record - 22 May 1924 death of Francis Walmsley (1924 June Prestwich 08D 548 - recorded as male and E Walmsley his widow was present at his death.

Any ideas of how to find the record of her death?

[Kay99]

Just a thought - I wonder if she could have remarried?   

Marriages Sep Qtr  1917   Manchester 8d 383
Joseph Dooley - Frances Walmsley 

Possible death - Fanny Dooley Age:    73
Mar Qtr 1931   Manchester North Vol 8d Page 1034

Kay

[Kay99]

Maybe a coincidence - I think her daughter Annie Walmsley married Albert Dooley in 1912 in Manchester - address in listed as 41 Gray St and father Thomas (deceased)   The marriage is on Anc

Kay

[bbart]

I think you are absolutely right, Kay!
I could not find anything in the old papers to support your theory, but then I found this!

This is from https://www.burialrecords.manchester.gov.uk/GenSearch.aspx

Apparently you can get more info if you are a registered user (which I am not)

Grave results for Joseph Dooley buried on 12/02/1927

Cemetery          Section        Grave  Position   Deceased
Philips Park Cemetery   FConsecrated   890   1   James Dooley
Philips Park Cemetery   FConsecrated   890   2   Joseph Dooley
Philips Park Cemetery   FConsecrated   890   3   Ada Dooley


Grave results for Fanny Dooley buried 14/02/1931

Cemetery           Section           Grave Position     Deceased
Philips Park Cemetery   CConsecrated   1379   1   Thomas Walmsley
Philips Park Cemetery   CConsecrated   1379   2   John H Wamsley [sic]
Philips Park Cemetery   CConsecrated   1379   3   William Dooley
Philips Park Cemetery   CConsecrated   1379   4   Henry Stringer
Philips Park Cemetery   CConsecrated   1379   5   Annie Dooley
Philips Park Cemetery   CConsecrated   1379   6   Lillian Dooley
Philips Park Cemetery   CConsecrated   1379   7   Leonard Aldcroft
Philips Park Cemetery   CConsecrated   1379   8   Fanny Dooley

Edit: The Thomas Walmsley in the above grave was buried 02/05/1908.
     Annie Dooley buried 09/05/1918 (just in case this was Fanny's daughter)
     John H. Wamsley [sic] buried 09/02/1916

[Kay99]

Well found  bbart     It looks like a good connection

Albert and Annie Dooley appear to have had a number of children that died as babies including William b 1914, Annie b 1915, Lilian 1919 and Dorothy b 1924 which might be some of the Dooley's mentioned

Kay

[bbart]

Now that I know the cemetery name, I found most of these on Findagrave, (no photos) and there are a LOT of Walmsley's in there, but not the right Thomas.... perhaps his grave marker didn't survive.  However, it gives TrevorW a lot to work with!

[Kay99]

Looking at Anc trees - John Henry Warmsley b1900 d 1916 was the son of Fanny and Thomas

[bbart]

Henry Stringer (in the same grave as Fanny) was just 2 years old.  I haven't found any relationship yet, but the toddler Leonard Aldcroft has a mother's maiden name of Walmsley.

[candrjm]

Possible family connection for Fanny Creech and Henry Stringer (aged 2 year old  when buried in 1917):

Fanny's birth (parents Samuel and Dorothy, married in 1839 as Samuel Chreech and Dorothy Gregory): Link to marriage cert:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6LR9-Z4J?i=42&cc=1788853

CREECH, FANNY        GREGORY        
GRO Reference: 1857  S Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 113

Birth for a sister 3 years before:
CREECH, MARY        GREGORY      
GRO Reference: 1854  D Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 115

Possible marriage for sister Mary:

Marriages Jun 1874   
CREECH    Mary         Manchester    8d   659    
STRINGER    John         Manchester    8d   659
Link to marriage cert:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-XS9S-MPS?i=234&cc=1788853

Birth of son Henry:
STRINGER, HENRY        CREECH      
GRO Reference: 1881  J Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 229

1891 census:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q5SM-DZM

Marriage for Henry Stringer to Margaret Gibson:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6R49-PGP?i=130&cc=1788853

Birth for Henry Stringer (jnr):

Births Sep 1914 
STRINGER    Henry    Gibson    Prestwich    8d   894

Death:
Deaths Mar 1917
Stringer    Henry    2    Prestwich    8d   622   

Henry Stringer buried 20th January 1917

So possibly toddler Henry Stringer was Fanny's great nephew (if above is correct)