Author Topic: Harry Needham = Zilpha Denton 1938, Barnsley, Yorkshire. Marriage Cert. Look Up.  (Read 1344 times)

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Re: Harry Needham = Zilpha Denton 1938, Barnsley, Yorkshire. Marriage Cert. Look Up.
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 19 January 19 15:27 GMT (UK) »
Harry Needham who married Zilpha was born 15 Apr 1916 and death reg barnsley July 1986

Harry Needham who married Dorothy was born 11 jun 1916

It may not help with the original question, but there's a death registration for a Brian Harry Needham with that birth date, in the Barnsley district in July 1995.
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Re: Harry Needham = Zilpha Denton 1938, Barnsley, Yorkshire. Marriage Cert. Look Up.
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 19 January 19 16:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi ArthurK,

Yes. I also have that death registration but as you say, it may not help with the original question.

Two Harry Needham's born in the same qtr. of 1916. Married in the same qtr. in Barnsley in 1938 and I have now found that they both lived in the same area of Barnsley (Monk Bretton) in 1939.

Amazing coincidences,

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Re: Harry Needham = Zilpha Denton 1938, Barnsley, Yorkshire. Marriage Cert. Look Up.
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 19 January 19 16:33 GMT (UK) »
Hmm interesting.....

Grace Street and Daycroft are six minutes walk away from each other.

Could we be looking at a bigamist  ???   ???

It is an incredible co-incidence to have two Harry Needham's living that close to each other.  A lot of digging and delving needed here!!
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Re: Harry Needham = Zilpha Denton 1938, Barnsley, Yorkshire. Marriage Cert. Look Up.
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 19 January 19 16:37 GMT (UK) »
Hmm interesting.....

Grace Street and Daycroft are six minutes walk away from each other.

Could we be looking at a bigamist  ???   ???

It is an incredible co-incidence to have two Harry Needham's living that close to each other.  A lot of digging and delving needed here!!

They have different occupations (and dates of birth) - maybe he does one job during the day and the other at night  ;D  ;D
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Re: Harry Needham = Zilpha Denton 1938, Barnsley, Yorkshire. Marriage Cert. Look Up.
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 19 January 19 16:41 GMT (UK) »
Possible birth registrations

Births Jun 1916   
Needham    Harry    Dale    Barnsley    9c   457    
Needham    Harry    Needham    Prestwich    8d   511    

Births Sep 1916   
Needham    Harry    Roscow    Bury    8c   904

I included the September one in case the June birth date one was registered late.

Without any further information to hand, the Barnsley one is most likely.

This probably eliminates one of them
Harry Needham
Birth   08/05/1916
Death 06/1977 Rochdale Greater Manchester England
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Re: Harry Needham = Zilpha Denton 1938, Barnsley, Yorkshire. Marriage Cert. Look Up.
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 19 January 19 16:51 GMT (UK) »
The two Harrys of interest don't have that birth date Rosie, they are 15 April 1916 and 11 June 1916.

So something is wrong somewhere.

Added:  The May birth date one is a single man in 1939.  Living in Chadderton, Lancs.  That could suggest that he is the apparent illegitimate one, birth registered in Prestwich which is in Lancs.
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Re: Harry Needham = Zilpha Denton 1938, Barnsley, Yorkshire. Marriage Cert. Look Up.
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 19 January 19 17:03 GMT (UK) »
I was just eliminating one of the births listed. I assumed that the death I posted probably belonged to one of the Lancashire births though more likely to be the June qtr than September qtr  :)
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Re: Harry Needham = Zilpha Denton 1938, Barnsley, Yorkshire. Marriage Cert. Look Up.
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 17 November 21 19:20 GMT (UK) »
Going  back to John Needham, born in 1820,  I have found that he appears to have had 2 wives - Sarah (b1816) and Harriet (b1819) and with whom he had his several children.   Was he also a bigamist? (I am related to these Needhams, my Great Grandfather being George Needham of Barnsley).

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Re: Harry Needham = Zilpha Denton 1938, Barnsley, Yorkshire. Marriage Cert. Look Up.
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 23 November 21 20:13 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

Welcome to RootsChat :)


There are a few John NEEDHAMs born about 1820 in Yorkshire, it's hard to be sure which one you are looking at. If you give us the details of your Great Grandfather George NEEDHAM I hope we will be able to help you work backwards :)


Regards,
Daisy
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