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Coldstream Guards Uniform - James Noel Francis
« on: Saturday 19 January 19 14:08 GMT (UK) »
I apologise if I have duplicated this message, I have had network and PC problems this morning.

I am carrying out some research on behalf of a friend.  She has been to visit her father who had a copy of the attached photograph of his father James Noel Francis - DOB: 25 Dec 1912 Grimsby he died on the 30 Jan 1982.  Her father thinks James was in the Coldstream Guards and during the 1930's completed Ceremonial duties for the Royal Family hence why he remained in London and did not return to Grimsby. I am intrigued by the crown within the photograph could anyone identify the crown or was it ornate for the photo.  Also can anyone trace James's military record or any medals he may have earnt.  I know I am asking a lot but I am at a dead end.   


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Re: Coldstream Guards Uniform - James Noel Francis
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 19 January 19 15:12 GMT (UK) »
Service records for anyone serving after 1920 are still with the MOD
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=651361.0
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Re: Coldstream Guards Uniform - James Noel Francis
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 19 January 19 15:16 GMT (UK) »
Service records for anyone serving after 1920 are still with the MOD
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=651361.0

Thank you Rosie,

I will pass on the address to my friend

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Re: Coldstream Guards Uniform - James Noel Francis
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 19 January 19 15:47 GMT (UK) »
The picture confirms he is Coldstream Guards, you can tell by the formation of his buttons. 
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Coldstream Guards Uniform - James Noel Francis
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 19 January 19 15:49 GMT (UK) »
The (King's) crown is part of the photographers props of patriotic emblems which in this case has a mirror centre.  It is similar to, but most definitely not the same as, the Royal coat of arms.  It was probably used for every soldier, whatever the regiment, who wanted something different (and may have regretted it on seeing the flash reflection!)

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Re: Coldstream Guards Uniform - James Noel Francis
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 19 January 19 15:49 GMT (UK) »
The picture confirms he is Coldstream Guards, you can tell by the formation of his buttons.

Jebber,

Thank you for the uniform confirmation

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Re: Coldstream Guards Uniform - James Noel Francis
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 19 January 19 15:50 GMT (UK) »
The (King's) crown is part of the photographers props of patriotic emblems which in this case has a mirror centre.  It is similar to, but most definitely not the same as, the Royal coat of arms.  It was probably used for every soldier, whatever the regiment, who wanted something different (and may have regretted it on seeing the flash reflection!)

MaxD


MaxD,

Very interesting ...it is Amazing what can be gained by a picture.


Keith
Ryan - Liverpool
Tierney - Liverpool
Hearn - Suffolk, London, Midlands, West Lancashire. Liverpool.
Woodside - Liverpool, Midlands, Scotland, Wigtown.
Petersen/Peterson - Denmark, Hull, Liverpool
King - Hereford - Pencoyd, Monmouth
Harvey - Liverpool
Gray - Liverpool