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Re: Staffordshire, Wolverhampton; Shropshire, Wellington-Hayward and Rowley
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 19 January 19 22:47 GMT (UK) »
Is this the death of Eliza HAYWARD? 
1853 not 1852

HAYWARD, ELIZA       35     
GRO Reference: 1853  S Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON  Volume 06B  Page 213

I presume you have that cert if you know the address ?
Who notified the death?

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Re: Staffordshire, Wolverhampton; Shropshire, Wellington-Hayward and Rowley
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 19 January 19 23:11 GMT (UK) »
The only John JORDAN Sarah marriage I can see is for a Sarah Ann ROWLEY on 7 Feb 1866, Wolverhampton
John widower 36 Key Maker Father John Jordan decd
Sarah Ann ROWLEY 25 spinster father William ROWLEY decd
Witnesses Edwin JORDAN and Esther PERRY

I have that date as their marriage date - Saint Mark's, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire in our original records. Interesting the use of the name Rowley, her mother's maiden name. Is it possible she was illegitimate?

 
JORDAN, GEORGE  HENRY HERBERT FOSTER   ROWLEY     
GRO Reference: 1867  M Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON  Volume 06B  Page 460   

JORDAN, ORSON  JOHN     ROWLEY     
GRO Reference: 1869  S Quarter in GREAT BOUGHTON  Volume 08A  Page 353

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Re: Staffordshire, Wolverhampton; Shropshire, Wellington-Hayward and Rowley
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 19 January 19 23:24 GMT (UK) »
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GYBX-9PM8?i=27&cc=1727033

If this is her in 1910 she says her father was Scot and spoke Gaelic
Similarly in 1930 says father is Scottish.


Arrival in USA said to be 1888 which fits with the shipping list as per Family Search tree where her occupation is listed as “Lady” so that’s where that rumour comes from. 

Entry above is Mrs Eliza Walker age 57
And below, Miss Eliza JORDAN age 4. B Wolverhampton.  Is this her birth reg?

I am not positive this is her, but believe it is. The 4 year old is her daughter, and she was actually older based on our records. Eliza Ann was born 27 Jul 1881 Wednesfield, Staffordshire. It is possible Eliza died, another daughter died in 1883. John died in Jan 1881.

JORDAN, ELIZA  JANE     PARKER    
GRO Reference: 1885  D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON  Volume 06B  Page 613

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Re: Staffordshire, Wolverhampton; Shropshire, Wellington-Hayward and Rowley
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 19 January 19 23:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi again, in original post, their was mention of Berry Street, Wolverhampton, in 1851 a Sarah J Rowley 10 b Wolverhampton is shown as Niece to a William Bynam ?
Census ref HO107/2019/79/20
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Yes. Priscilla the daughter in that family has MMN MORRIS

Priscilla Rowley BIRTH ABT 1811 Ketley, Shropshire DEATH 18 APR 1885 Parents were George Rowley and Rebecca Morris-married 21 May 1832 Saint Lawrence, Darlaston, near Wolverhampton, Staffordshire - Michael Busby and 14 Oct 1845 Saint Thomas, Birmingham, Warwick - William Bynum
So it appears she is using the name Rowley. Will you please send me the link to this census?


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Re: Staffordshire, Wolverhampton; Shropshire, Wellington-Hayward and Rowley
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 19 January 19 23:38 GMT (UK) »
Mckha489 - Yes, I believe I have Sarah Jane's birth registration and if Gulielmi is latin for William, I also have her christening date. Thank you all so much! I will try to respond to each question individually as to not confuse things.

Do you know who that godmother is? Hellena Berry?
No, no mention of her anyywhere.

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Re: Staffordshire, Wolverhampton; Shropshire, Wellington-Hayward and Rowley
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 19 January 19 23:56 GMT (UK) »
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Priscilla Rowley BIRTH ABT 1811 Ketley, Shropshire DEATH 18 APR 1885 Parents were George Rowley and Rebecca Morris-married 21 May 1832 Saint Lawrence, Darlaston, near Wolverhampton, Staffordshire - Michael Busby and 14 Oct 1845 Saint Thomas, Birmingham, Warwick - William Bynum
So it appears she is using the name Rowley. Will you please send me the link to this census?


https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGGW-NZ4


William and Priscilla are on the previous page

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Re: Staffordshire, Wolverhampton; Shropshire, Wellington-Hayward and Rowley
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 19 January 19 23:58 GMT (UK) »
Is this the death of Eliza HAYWARD? 
1853 not 1852

HAYWARD, ELIZA       35     
GRO Reference: 1853  S Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON  Volume 06B  Page 213

I presume you have that cert if you know the address ?
Who notified the death?

This will take a bit more time. I don't have those records with me right now, but according to my original paf in ancestry I only have the registration. 6 Jul 1852  Wolverhampton, Staffordshire. If I ordered one since then it is on my computer at home. Thanks again for your help! Please let me know if you find any more. I will do some research and see if I can find her and her mother using the name Rowley and Sidebottom,as the original records also record a marriage of Eliza to Joseph Sidebotham or Sybotham Marriage 25 Jan 1845 Collegiate Church, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire and a son George 24 Jan 1851 Berry Street, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire.

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Re: Staffordshire, Wolverhampton; Shropshire, Wellington-Hayward and Rowley
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 20 January 19 00:38 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps this death then

SIDEBOTHAM, ELIZA       35     
GRO Reference: 1852  S Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON  Volume 06B  Page 250

I’m having internet issues, images on FindMyPast not loading and Ancestry completely down. So I’ll be back later,

I do see on the 1851 census  transcript Jospeh Sidebottom  KeySmith with  Eliza. Children Mary Ann Sidebottom  c 1843 and George b 1851.  George on GRO is

SIDEBOTHAM, GEORGE       ROWLEY     Order
GRO Reference: 1851  M Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON  Volume 17  Page 416   Order

Marriage of Eliza ROWLEY (Not Hayward) is on FindMyPast but as I said I can’t see image at present.  Transcript says father is G ROWLEY.
 

Added, finally loaded. A witness is Elizabeth HALE. The other witness is a professional witness,

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Re: Staffordshire, Wolverhampton; Shropshire, Wellington-Hayward and Rowley
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 20 January 19 21:36 GMT (UK) »
So I have been digging through the family records and have not found much.
A photo of Sarah Jane Hayward,
a birth certificate for Mary Ann Rowley, 24 May 1842 no father listed, abode Princess Alley, Mother Eliza Rowley reporting it,
and a death certificate for a Sarah Rowley age 31, 22 March 1847, abode Princess Alley. A Rebecca Rowley reported the death.
I also found a letter referencing the receipt of a birth certificate for Sarah Jane Haywood. I can't find the certificate, but thankfully the letter states all pertinent information. 30 Dec. 1840 Abode Princess Alley Father William Haywood, Occupation hawker- mother Eliza Haywood formerly Rowley Eliza Haywood was the informant.
The death certificate appears to be Eliza's sister and her mother Rebecca reporting it.
In the letter, the person goes on to say that Haywood and Hayward were interchangeable at the time, depending on how the name was pronounced,and says the John Jordan belonged to the Primitive Methodist Church on John's Street in Wolverhampton and Sarah Jane Haywood belonged to the Independant Methodist Church on Queen Street. The letter was written by Henry E. Christensen, Supt. of the Genealogical Society and was written 4 March 1952.