Jean Mann and James Campbell Petty area

[mcadamsd]

In looking for my 2nd great grandmother's family, I found possible parents.

A marriage of a Jean Mann and James Campbell in Petty, Inverness 27 Jun 1806 seems a fit.  My 2nd great grandmother was born in 1787 according to various documents, including her death record in Ontario, Canada, and I find a baptism 26 Jan 1787 in Petty with parents Jean Mann and James Campbell.

I have been unable to find any further info on Jean Mann (Birth/Death, Etc). For James Campbell, some trees and census documents (1841 for example)point to a possible birth year of 1762 in Inverness-Shire but nothing definitive.  I have been unable to review the actual 1841 census document to see who else is with him.

I believe there were the following children.


Jane Campbell  1787–1869 (my 2nd great grandmother)  Also known as Jean
   
James Campbell 1788–
   
Charles Campbell 1790–

John Campbell 10 Jun 1792 Christening Date 14 Jun 1792  So likely passed before 1794
   
John Campbell 1794–     Christening Date 19 Aug 1794  He also may have passed as we find another birth in 1805

Janet Campbell  1798–
   
Hugh Rose Campbell  1801–
   
Eliza Campbell  1803–

John Campbell 1805-

I also found a birth and christening for a William and Colin  Campbell 28 Aug 1796 in Petty with only father shown as James Campbell

Wondering if anything can be added

[Rosinish]

Nothing to add but...

From the list of possible children you've provided for James & Jean, the most uncommon would be Charles, have you tried tracing him beyond OPRs & into statutory records?

Do you have any further info. of any of the children listed e.g. whether others emigrated etc?

It's always an idea to try & trace possible siblings to compare parentage details on deaths &/or naming patterns.

Annie

[Forfarian]

There is a death of a Charles Campbell, mother's surname Mann, aged 71, in Aberdeen St Nicholas in 1860.

In the 1851 census in Aberdeen there's a Campbell family including Charles, 61, labourer, born Petty, with wife Margaret, 41 and children Charles, 14, William, 6 and Margaret, 2 months.

Looks like the family of Charles Campbell and Margaret Yule, married in St Nicholas 28 November 1829, whose recorded children were James, born 11 February 1831; David, born 1 January 1833; Charles, born 14 March 1837; William, bon 2 August 1844; and Margaret, born 3 February 1851.

Charles' death certificate should confirm or refute that.

[Forfarian]

FreeCEN https://freecen1.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl Lists James Campbell, 79, gardener, born Inverness-shire, at Petty with Margaret, 40, not born in the county; Farquhar, 16; Donald, 12; and Isabella, 1.

However there is absolutely no way of telling from this census whether or not this is your James. Just because he is roughly the right age and living in Petty is not enough. Do not trust anything you find in an online tree.

Does your Jean Campbell's death certificate give the names of her parents? It's never safe to assume that the only apparent candidate is the right person, because so many baptism and other records have not survived. Jean Campbell is a very common name.

[Rosinish]

Forfarian's advice is good & I've seen some crackers of trees on my own family which I know to be wrong having every cert. (Bapt. or B/M/D & census') all genuine records from SP i.e. not transcriptions!

If/when you check out the Charles who Forfarian has found, you're next 2 would be Colin & William as least common names (in my view)?

Annie

[Forfarian]

These are the Campbells in the 1851 census who were born in Petty in 1800 plus or minus 10 years and have been transcribed by FreeCEN

CAMPBELL Alexander 52 Chelsea Pensioner Nairn-Royal Burgh       
CAMPBELL Charles 61 Labourer North Parish   (Aberdeen)            
CAMPBELL    Hugh 42 Bridge Gatekeeper Dyke               
CAMPBELL John 44 General Lab Croy               
CAMPBELL John 42 Cotter 13ac Cart Hirer Ardersier               
CAMPBELL   William 53 Agricultural Labourer Forres Burgh               
CAMPBELL William 54 Carpenter Cartwright Petty

[Rosinish]

"Hugh Rose Campbell  1801–"

Possible marriage;

CAMPBELL HUGH ROSE & ELIZABETH PETRIE/ 24/07/1831
319/40 404 St Vigeans

A death (son possibly) but confusing as it gives mms as Petrie which doesn't match his age (on the index);

CAMPBELL HUGH ROSE M 34   
PETRIE / ELIZABETH PETRIE 12/11/1838
272/130 244 Arbroath

Annie

[Rosinish]

Not too popular with middle name Rose (also a surname) so I'm adding these for that reason as they may help too in some way later;

Deaths;

CAMPBELL HUGH ROSE 73 (b c 1839)
1912
123/ 76 Nairn

If the 1st death I posted is actually 3 yrs 4 mnths rather than 34 yrs then this may have been a son born following his death in 1838?


CAMPBELL HUGH ROSE 71
1949
123/ 9 Nairn

Annie

[mcadamsd]

Thanks for the great leads and pointers.  The search continues.

Assuming the marriage of Hugh Rose to Petrie, I have found a possible daughter, Elizabeth, born 19 Nov 1831 .  No birth or death info for Elizabeth Petrie as yet but if Hugh died in 1838 perhaps she remarried?  There are a number of Elizabeth Petrie births around 1800 but unable to pin down if one is "our" Elizabeth