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Offline Silmaril

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SPAIN: Birth of Grandparents
« on: Monday 21 January 19 16:39 GMT (UK) »

The attached image shows my two Spanish grandparents although my father was a Brummie and I do not speak Spanish.

Family lore says that Jose Ruiz Martin may have been born in Jaen or Linares.

Where do I begin?

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Re: SPAIN: Birth of Grandparents
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 22 January 19 07:02 GMT (UK) »
26 years between them - big gap 
may just be a coincidence but there is a marriage of a Martin to a Ruiz - could these be Jose Ruiz Martins parents ?
 official record of that couples marriage

Maria Salome Ysabel Martin Ruiz
Spain, Province of Granada, Catholic Pre-Marriage Investigation Files
Name    Juan Jose de San Pedro Lopez Martin
Event Type    Marriage
Event Date    10 Nov 1881
Event Place    Granada, Spain
Gender    Male
Spouse's Name    Maria Salome Ysabel Martin Ruiz

a shot in the dark ????   could Jose Ruiz Martin have gotten his name Ruiz via his mums surname ?...worth looking in to - what province are Jaen and Linares in ??
just looked and Granada is not that far away from JAEN or LINARES ? around 55 miles
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Re: SPAIN: Birth of Grandparents
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 22 January 19 08:33 GMT (UK) »
My understanding of Spanish naming convention is that a child's "first surname" comes from the father, and the "second surname" from the mother.

So, in my case -
My grandfather -   Jose Ruiz Martin
My grandmother - Mariana Alonso Idalgo
My mother -         Mariana Ruiz Alonso

(Giving her her mother's first name as well just confuses the issue slightly.)