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Air raid Wardens
« on: Tuesday 22 January 19 08:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
   have been looking for a Thomas Francis Mitchell in the war records born 1883 Ireland died 1970 Warrington,  Lancashire, on his obituary he is said to have been a holder of the special constable award but cannot find any trace of him, would he perhaps have been a Air Raid Warden and not be mentioned in the military?  (he worked at the Vulcan foundry from 1920 to 1955 give or take a few years. Or could he have been a works police (security).
                   
                                   Thanks in advance
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Re: Air raid Wardens
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 22 January 19 09:19 GMT (UK) »
Have you found him in the 1939 register?
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Re: Air raid Wardens
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 22 January 19 09:20 GMT (UK) »
Possible - 1939 has him as an ARP Warden - Newton le Willows.
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Re: Air raid Wardens
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 22 January 19 09:38 GMT (UK) »
See paragraph 7 of the following:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/bomb-census-survey-records-1940-1945/

You wouldn't have found him on line if he was in the military as WW2 service records are with the MOD still

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Re: Air raid Wardens
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 22 January 19 10:03 GMT (UK) »
Yes that's him Bumble, looks like another wall :(
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 22 January 19 10:20 GMT (UK) »
He was born in 1883 so could have been in the military during WW1, he'd have been 55/56 at the start of WW2.

Between 60 -70% of WW1 documents were destroyed in the bombing of WW2. There may be a medal card but it will give little detail.
Lloyd, Paddock, Cooper, Morris, Darby, Rigby, Platt, Armstrong. All based in West Midlands

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Re: Air raid Wardens
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 22 January 19 10:29 GMT (UK) »
A possible on FindMyPast will try to find his docs.

Thomas Francis   Mitchell
Year   1914-20
Service number   T4/124458
Rank   Private
Regiment   Army Service Corps

That man received silver badge

Private  Thomas Francis Mitchell
T4/124458
   
Badge number   238398
Enlistment date   01-Jul-1915 Discharge date  30-Aug-1917
Regiment/unit   A. S. C.
Cause of discharge   Para. 392 (xvi) King's Regulation Sickness
Issued   07-Sep-1917
Lloyd, Paddock, Cooper, Morris, Darby, Rigby, Platt, Armstrong. All based in West Midlands

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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 22 January 19 10:41 GMT (UK) »
Different man on Ancestry with  his attestation docs and is said to be a trustworthy and honest man. Was invalided home from Salonika in 1919

Name:   Thomas Francis Mitchell

Birth Date:   abt 1892
Enlistment Age:   23
Document Year:   1915
Residence Place:   1 Stewart Street, Preston
Regimental Number:   4110321
Regiment Name:   Army Service Corps

He was a horseman as a civilian taken on as a driver in the army service corps.
Lloyd, Paddock, Cooper, Morris, Darby, Rigby, Platt, Armstrong. All based in West Midlands

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Re: Air raid Wardens
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 22 January 19 10:47 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your time and patience , don't think he was in the army as we think he was in the IRA as far as we know he came over from Ireland around 1920 and before that worked at the Ballinasloe Asylum in Galway he started work at the Vulcan foundry, if the records do exist of Air raid wardens in WW2  when will they be open to the public ?
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