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Baby Annie Jones 1911 who is she .& why crossed out ?
« on: Thursday 24 January 19 16:31 GMT (UK) »
Hello
Ive had another look at 1911
Birkenhead census for my grandfather and his family

Its quite a messy family & totally mistranscribed on ancestry as elder brother George Jones is head of household and  *his sister appears as his daughter
The 2nd line has his mother Maria nee Smith down as having been married 28 years and having 8 children 7 living 1 dead

She had 2 children with her first husband Joseph LEA  and 7 with her second husband Abiah JONES who is staying nearby in 1911
There is a line thru those figures and across a sentence which i think was "separated for ...x ? years

There are also crossing outs and rewritings to get her childrens professions correct .
  The youngest of  my grandfathers brothers is aged 10

Under him is Annie Jones No age given
Her name is then crossed out .
Does this mean she was a baby ? Did she die ?
Could she have belonged to one if the jones elder siblings ?

Any ideas ...?I.d like your theories .?
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Re: Baby Annie Jones 1911 who is she .& why crossed out ?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 24 January 19 16:47 GMT (UK) »

Under him is Annie Jones No age given
Her name is then crossed out .
Does this mean she was a baby ? Did she die ?
Could she have belonged to one if the jones elder siblings ?


I think she has died and that is why she is crossed out - Also check the children who have died against her.
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Re: Baby Annie Jones 1911 who is she .& why crossed out ?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 24 January 19 16:55 GMT (UK) »
All the other children  from this 2nd marriage are on that census
And a half sister .

BUT  if she was a baby and Maria and Abiah JONES had been separated for several years it does leave question of who was father .

We know great grandmother  Maria as a very staid no nonsense old lady its very hard to imagine her having a fling aged 51
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Re: Baby Annie Jones 1911 who is she .& why crossed out ?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 24 January 19 17:03 GMT (UK) »
Have you confirmed the numbers regarding children of the marriage for Maria that lived/died
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Re: Baby Annie Jones 1911 who is she .& why crossed out ?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 24 January 19 17:08 GMT (UK) »
She is listed as daughter to head of house which would be George  aged 22 single grocers assistant

But as there are so.many other mistakes on the page its a bit of a mystery .

She could also be a child of the elder Jones half siblings
David Abiah JONES aged 25
Mabel Rebecca or Helen who were in their 30.s
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Re: Baby Annie Jones 1911 who is she .& why crossed out ?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 24 January 19 17:12 GMT (UK) »
I think Rosie meant she died as a baby.
The 1911 census was the first to ask how many children to the marriage. Annie could have been born any  time during the marriage not necessarily since the 1901 census.

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Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
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Re: Baby Annie Jones 1911 who is she .& why crossed out ?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 24 January 19 17:19 GMT (UK) »
We havent come across a baby that died before .grandad always said he had 5 brothers George Jo Ewert William &Arthur  and 1 sister Winifred .
He had 2 older sisters on his mothers side Lizzie and Henrietta LEA they didnt use the Jones surname .
The older brother on his fathers side grew up with him and was in army by1899 and married in 1911.with a babyof his own  born
Dec 1911
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Re: Baby Annie Jones 1911 who is she .& why crossed out ?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 24 January 19 17:21 GMT (UK) »
Tazzie thanks for that suggestion ...so you mean people may have put their deceased children on tbe census hence not giving an age ?

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Re: Baby Annie Jones 1911 who is she .& why crossed out ?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 24 January 19 17:40 GMT (UK) »
Tazzie thanks for that suggestion ...so you mean people may have put their deceased children on tbe census hence not giving an age ?
One of my direct ancestors listed every child they had in their marriage in age order. Next to about 4 were 'died'. It was very helpful as I had no idea about some of them.