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Re: Baby Annie Jones 1911 who is she .& why crossed out ?
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 24 January 19 17:53 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Ben there is always something new on here .
It would then make sense that Maria d had a baby.while still with her husband in her 40.s

BUT it could also make sense that baby Annie belonged to one of her stepchildren as their mothers name was  Ann.
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Re: Baby Annie Jones 1911 who is she .& why crossed out ?
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 24 January 19 17:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi......

Sometimes when they have entered all children they have listed married children who have left home and got their own family. So they would be found in two places on the census.

Tazzie
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: Baby Annie Jones 1911 who is she .& why crossed out ?
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 24 January 19 18:13 GMT (UK) »
Im trying to find where my grandfathers half sisters were at this time . Mabel and Rebecca Jones were both spinsters in 1924   they were with relatives or doing domestic duties in 1891 i believe they died in Wales .
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Re: Baby Annie Jones 1911 who is she .& why crossed out ?
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 24 January 19 18:20 GMT (UK) »
As George is head of household and Maria's husband is not present, the statistics about her children were technically not required, which is why the census staff have drawn a red line through it.

I think that Annie was the one child of Maria's that died.  (That's assuming you can account for the other seven.) 

I've got a 1911 census form that includes a deceased child - lots of people were confused by those questions and misunderstood what should be included.
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Re: Baby Annie Jones 1911 who is she .& why crossed out ?
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 24 January 19 19:36 GMT (UK) »
Yes Sloe gin I think thats the answer .

I wondered why there were so many crossings out on the census ...it did give some intetesting information tho
My great uncle Ewert went deaf from meningitus and the census tells us hed been deaf since age 13 ..i always thought it was younger as my grandfather told us they took turns holding his hands at night so he.d know he was alive .
Also there is an extra comment about Lizzea LEA being a half sister....
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Re: Baby Annie Jones 1911 who is she .& why crossed out ?
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 24 January 19 19:50 GMT (UK) »
Maria was very fertile
She had her first daughter aged 18 in 1877 then another 2 years later .her first husband died and she waited 7 years to remarry then started having children every 2 or 3 years again  .

The biggest gaps when she could have had   Annie who died are 1886-1889
1894-1897



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Re: Baby Annie Jones 1911 who is she .& why crossed out ?
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 24 January 19 22:49 GMT (UK) »
There are two Ann Jones in the 2nd quarter of 1911 born in Birkenhead (assuming she was a young baby probably born late March very beginning of April - there aren't any in the Jan - Mar quarter)

MMN Roberts and MMN Jones

Also a potential of an Annie MMN Cork Dec 1910

Do any of those maiden names match any of the Jones siblings?

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Re: Baby Annie Jones 1911 who is she .& why crossed out ?
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 24 January 19 22:53 GMT (UK) »
However scrubbing that - there is an Annie Jones aged 1 who dies in the April - Jun quarter 1911

If she died in the first few days of April she's, IMHO, the main contender

In the Apr - Jun quarter 1910 there is an illegitamate Annie Jones born in Birkinhead

Depending on how interested you are in solving the puzzle they'd be the certificates I'd be looking at - the death one first and if that date of death is in the day or so prior to the census with right adress you know you have it

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Re: Baby Annie Jones 1911 who is she .& why crossed out ?
« Reply #17 on: Friday 25 January 19 00:39 GMT (UK) »
Good detective work
All the daughters either had Jones or Lea as surnames
If a son took on his birth child we may never know mothers maiden name

If child was Marias but husband did not acknowledge it would it be classified as illegitimate   ??
* maria.s maiden name was Smith.


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