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No cause of death given
« on: Friday 25 January 19 14:40 GMT (UK) »
I ordered a certificate for a childís death which occurred in Thornbury in 1840. The child (who was illegitimate) was 4 years old and died a few months after his mother. The date of death, residence etc. were all included on the certificate except the cause of death which was left blank.

Why would this have been?  ???

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Re: No cause of death given
« Reply #1 on: Friday 25 January 19 14:50 GMT (UK) »
There was no compulsory requirement for a medical practitioner to attend any deaths until much later in the century. Often the information would have been given by a family member and they would either guess or just not know the cause.
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Re: No cause of death given
« Reply #2 on: Friday 25 January 19 14:56 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, Falkyrn. The informant was Mary Ann Tobbins and I donít think she was a relation (that I know of yet). That may explain things.

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Re: No cause of death given
« Reply #3 on: Friday 25 January 19 15:02 GMT (UK) »
I have a death cert where my 3rd gt grandmother registered her daughter in law's death (my 2nd gt grandmother). It was just after registration started in 1838 and it was also a couple of years after her son's death and she refused to say why she'd died.
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Re: No cause of death given
« Reply #4 on: Friday 25 January 19 15:07 GMT (UK) »
I have a death cert where my 3rd gt grandmother registered her daughter in law's death (my 2nd gt grandmother). It was just after registration started in 1838 and it was also a couple of years after her son's death and she refused to say why she'd died.

Thatís a strange one, isnít it?  :-\

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Re: No cause of death given
« Reply #5 on: Friday 25 January 19 15:37 GMT (UK) »
Until 1874 entering the cause of death was not a legal requirement, but from 1874 a doctor's certificate was necessary before a death certificate could be issued. Between 1858 and 1874 the entry should indicate whether the cause had been 'certified' or 'not certified' by a medical practitioner. See  http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=683765.msg5281546#msg5281546

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Re: No cause of death given
« Reply #6 on: Friday 25 January 19 15:41 GMT (UK) »
I have a death cert where my 3rd gt grandmother registered her daughter in law's death (my 2nd gt grandmother). It was just after registration started in 1838 and it was also a couple of years after her son's death and she refused to say why she'd died.

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I've seen 'Decline' come up on a few of the death certificates I've had for family and I don't think it's decline in the context that we use it for now i.e refusal (although it might be).  Death certificates could be quite vague back then and as far as I know decline was used for a gradual wasting away of someone/some kind of wasting disease.
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Re: No cause of death given
« Reply #7 on: Friday 25 January 19 15:43 GMT (UK) »
I have a death cert where my 3rd gt grandmother registered her daughter in law's death (my 2nd gt grandmother). It was just after registration started in 1838 and it was also a couple of years after her son's death and she refused to say why she'd died.

Does it actually say she refused to give a cause of death? 'Decline' was quite common on death certificates as a cause of death. There's at least one RC thread mentioning this-
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Re: No cause of death given
« Reply #8 on: Friday 25 January 19 15:45 GMT (UK) »
There's a line through the section used for reason for death as though the section is not to be used and decline used as the reason for it's none use.
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