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Re: Publican Butcher and Farmer in 1851 .
« Reply #18 on: Monday 28 January 19 02:29 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Jill what a great page

I looked at Enochs too

There is only one Enoch JONES
buried  in Ruabon age 67
So he was the one in asylum

He had a son Ellis  in 1858 who died  in aug aged 1 month the couple were living in Hulme .


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Re: Publican Butcher and Farmer in 1851 .
« Reply #19 on: Monday 28 January 19 02:35 GMT (UK) »
Surprisngly ..no Dorcas names at all.

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Re: Publican Butcher and Farmer in 1851 .
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 02 June 19 16:03 BST (UK) »
Hi im taking another look at this

Can you help me unravel

Some family trees have  parents as william and jane Jones b 1801 and 5 other children
But Im not convinced

If anyone could read the names of farms or addresses on  censuses it would be a great help.




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Re: Publican Butcher and Farmer in 1851 .
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 02 June 19 16:33 BST (UK) »
enoch b1814 cant be josephs brother

 Josephs father william b 1801
Maybe uncle or another relation.
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Re: Publican Butcher and Farmer in 1851 .
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 02 June 19 20:39 BST (UK) »
Enoch is an interesting man.but is he related to us directly

My great grandfather Abiah Roger JONES aged 11 in 1861
Sister Dorcas aged 13 with their widowed father and younger siblings

 sister Martha Ann  age 10  with mothers brother Benjamin THOMAS

In 1851 Dorcas age 3 was with Enoch & Hannah JONES  both age 37 at the Rose and crown

Martha Ann age 10.months with patents Joseph & Rebekkah JONES
Abbott street

So where was Abiah age 1 ?
Did Enoch have any children ?

Rebecca died in 1857 maybe in childbirth as rhere is a birth " male child Jones " registered

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Re: Publican Butcher and Farmer in 1851 .
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 02 June 19 21:35 BST (UK) »
1851. Bryngelan [?] , Garthneuoedd, Denbighshire

David Jones    37 farmer, 40 acres empl 1 lab, b LLanfwrog
Martha Jones    35 b Llanarmon
Alia R Jones    2  [image says Abia] b Oldham, visitor
Stephen Davies    18
Catherine Williams    21

HO107; 2504;  348;  5;

[added: same place as he is in 1871, as "relative" Address Bryn Gole (Golau)]

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Re: Publican Butcher and Farmer in 1851 .
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 02 June 19 21:57 BST (UK) »
Thats amazing Mabel

And it proves there is a link to  abiahs grandfather william Jones with.brother David

Thanks for giving me the farm name too i couldnt read it

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Re: Publican Butcher and Farmer in 1851 .
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 12 October 19 11:55 BST (UK) »
I'm still unraveling these Jones people
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Enoch.b 1814  mother was Jane
But can't be  Jane davies b1801who married William jones in 1823 .


I think he is full brother to farmer David Jones b 1813the surrogate father of my great grandfather Abiah Roger Jones
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Re: Publican Butcher and Farmer in 1851 .
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 12 October 19 12:13 BST (UK) »
I have another DNA link which I think is to Abiahs sister
 Martha Ann Jones b1850 married to Abraham PRICE emigrated USA
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