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The Goodes and Chattells of John Locke
« on: Friday 25 January 19 20:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi All

Hope you can help with this one please, attached is a list of the "Goods and Chattells" of John Locke of Deeping. Hoping someone can translate it for me.

Many thanks in advance

BourneGooner

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Re: The Goodes and Chattells of John Locke
« Reply #1 on: Friday 25 January 19 21:49 GMT (UK) »
Transcription.

A trewe Inventory of the goods and Chattelles of
John Locke of St James Depinge in the countye
of Lincolne taken and prised after his death
the tenth daye of September 1616 by these
men whose names do followe, John Cooke
Edward Pavie, John Trith (?) and Wm Mason

Imprimis one cupbord, eleven peeces of                 ]
putar a Cushuene towe saultes, three                       ] xxxij s
candlestickes, and a brasen mortar                          ] 
Item tow brasse pottes a brasse panne                     ]
a skellit, a posnet, a Chaffindish, towe                    ] xxxiij s iiiij d
little kettles and tow begger kettles                         ]
Item one table a forme and a cheesspresse        ---    x s
Item one trusse bed, three cheares one                   ]
fether bed, tow boulsters a mattrisse a                 ]  iij li
downe bed, a quilte and tow coverleds                   ]
and three fether pillowes and a great                      ]
coffer w(i)th other implements
Item six pare of harden sheets                           ---    xxiiij s
Item six pare and a sheet of flaxen, four                 ]
board Cloathes, foure pillowbeares, and                 ]  v li
tow toweles and a dosen of table                            ]
napkines, a bedsted and three coffers
and an old cupbord
Item three spittes a pare of cobyrons                      ]  xij s
the recyrons and a gavelocke of yrone                   ]
Item foure tubbes and towe pales                        ---   vj s viij d
Item foure kye and thre younge beastes              ---  xiij li
Item all the haye and fodder                                ---  xxviij s
Item for hempe in the hands of Tho(m)as Callyne   liij s 4 d
Item John Sandbye oweth                                    ---   xx s
Item his Apparell                                                 ---   xl s

               Sum(m)a xxxiiij li iiij d


Looks like probate 30th Oct 1616 to Gregory Stawper. Need a Latin expert to translate this.

putar = pewter
saultes = salts
brasen = brass
harden sheets = hurden  - 'the coarse fibres or tow of flax or hemp'
yrone = iron

Spelling of cushions unclear in the middle
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: The Goodes and Chattells of John Locke
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 26 January 19 00:08 GMT (UK) »
Looks like probate 30th Oct 1616 to Gregory Stawper
It's the date the inventory was submitted into court.

Ex(hibi)tum fuit h(uius)mo(d)i Inven(ta)riu(m) apud Lincolní
xxxmo die mens(is) Octobris anno
d(omi)ni 1616to per Gregoriu(m) Stawper
nuntiu(m) sp(ec)iale destinat(um) ex parte
Administratric(is) &c pro pleno et
vero &c sub protestac(i)o(n)e tamen de
addend(o) &c si &c.


This inventory was presented at Lincoln on the 30th day of the month of October in the year of the Lord 1616 by Gregory Stawper, special messenger appointed on the part of the administratrix etc., for a full and true etc., subject however to additions etc., if etc.

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Re: The Goodes and Chattells of John Locke
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 26 January 19 04:50 GMT (UK) »
Just following up a couple of matters raised in goldie's transcript:

1.  The name of the second last appraiser is:  John Tigh

2.  I see the cushion spelling as:  ...a Cushione...

ADDED:

I think the surname of the first appraiser is Soobe or Soole.

Compare  the S on September.

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Re: The Goodes and Chattells of John Locke
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 26 January 19 05:34 GMT (UK) »
John Tigh looks good HD.

You may be right with the capital letter of September, and the surname of the first appraiser, but they look slightly different to me.
The 'S' on September and 'St James' have more loops.
The long tail from the word 'by' in the line above doesn't help either.

I have seen a capital 'C' written like this - with just the curve of the 'C' and a little mark inside.
Having said that, the 'c' at the beginning of 'county' is different again.

I guess if you're going to try and track down this person BourneGooner, you may have to try a range of spelling strategies.


Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: The Goodes and Chattells of John Locke
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 26 January 19 14:51 GMT (UK) »
You may be right with the capital letter of September, and the surname of the first appraiser, but they look slightly different to me.
The 'S' on September and 'St James' have more loops.

That is true.  My thought is that the pen had not properly inked the forward part of the bottom loop.

His C is quite different - Cushione/Chaffindish/Cheares

However, your final advice to BG is apposite, whichever way you view it.

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Re: The Goodes and Chattells of John Locke
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 26 January 19 20:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi All

Yet again I am totally speechless (well almost  :)) I really am grateful and thankful for everyones help with this. I have had these documents and still have some more for quite some time but never thought of posting them on here before for translating. They'd just be lost in my files and I'd not know what they contained so I really am overjoyed with the help and response to these.

Thank you one and all

BourneGooner

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Re: The Goodes and Chattells of John Locke
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 26 January 19 21:04 GMT (UK) »
"Item foure kye and thre young beastes"
         four kine and three young beasts
Kine is an archaic plural of cow. The young beasts would probably also have been cattle, possibly being reared for fattening, although it's also parlance for any kind of cattle (as used by a character in "The Archers" this week when admiring her son's newly purchased dairy herd) or for other animals.
Was the value £23?

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Re: The Goodes and Chattells of John Locke
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 26 January 19 21:12 GMT (UK) »
"Item foure tubes and towe pales"
         four tubs and two pails
Pails = buckets.
At least one of the pails would have been used for milking and the milk might then have been poured into one or more tubs, depending on size of tubs and quantity of milk. There was a cheese-press. Surplus milk in a tub would have been turned into cheese.