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Seeking help to locate birth of Arthur Davis
« on: Friday 25 January 19 23:25 GMT (UK) »
I have Arthur Davis  in my family, supposedly born in Camberwell, Surrey, in the December quarter of 1858.

In the 1861 census, he is with parents Thomas and Elizabeth Davis, at 1 Clifton Place, Lambeth with an age of 3

In the 1871 census, he is with parents Thomas and Elizabeth Davis at 3 Victoria Street, Lambeth, with an age of 13, and an occupation of clerk.

In 1875, he marries, aged 21, as per the marriage certificate, with an address of Spring Gardens, Lambeth. There is no information regarding if they were of the parish.

In the 1881 census, he is with his second “wife”, at 20 Manor St, Southwark, aged 30.

In the 1891 census, he is with his second “wife”, at 246-248 Hackney Road Bethnal Green, aged 33!

In the 1901 census he is at 246-248 Hackney Road, Bethnal Green, aged 43, with his second “wife”

In the 1911 census, he is with his daughter and son in law at 10 Sirdar Road, Wood Green, aged 55.

The ONLY consistent thing I can find, is in all the census information, he states his birth place as Camberwell, Surrey.

I have checked the GRO for his birth, which gives his mothers maiden name as Hastings.
DAVIS, ARTHUR        HASTINGS      
GRO Reference: 1858  D Quarter in LAMBETH  Volume 01D  Page 276

I have his parents as Thomas Davis, aged 40 at marriage, and his mother as Elizabeth Butler, aged 29 at marriage.

Any assistance in locating his birth information would be very gratefully received, as I have found him to be somewhat elusive.

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Re: Seeking help to locate birth of Arthur Davis
« Reply #1 on: Friday 25 January 19 23:38 GMT (UK) »
It sounds as though you have already (provisionally at least) found his birth?

Have you checked Elizabeth Butler’s marital status when she married Thomas Davis?  At 29 she might have had a first marriage behind her, and been born Elizabeth Hastings?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Seeking help to locate birth of Arthur Davis
« Reply #2 on: Friday 25 January 19 23:45 GMT (UK) »
Scratch that.  Now that I have looked at it, it’s clear you have alighted on the wrong birth registration.

His siblings in the 1861 census can be found at birth with mmn Pudney.

So: Arthur Davis, mmn Pudney, birth reg Sep qtr 1857 Lambeth 1d 330.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Seeking help to locate birth of Arthur Davis
« Reply #3 on: Friday 25 January 19 23:58 GMT (UK) »
When was the marriage that you found?

Possible early children in the marriage:

Elizabeth Davis mmn Pudney, Sep qtr 1840 Halstead
Ellen Davis mmn Pudney, Dec qtr 1842 Lambeth
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Seeking help to locate birth of Arthur Davis
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 26 January 19 00:01 GMT (UK) »
Thomas Davis marr Elz Pudney at Braintree, 1834 (Boyd’s Marriage Index).
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Seeking help to locate birth of Arthur Davis
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 26 January 19 00:10 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I agree Mothers maiden name was PUDNEY.

Why do you think the first marriage edit to Kate WARD ( I have looked at the certificate) is for your man?

Yes, the father's name is Thomas.  What else?

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Re: Seeking help to locate birth of Arthur Davis
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 26 January 19 00:21 GMT (UK) »
Possibly because of son in 1891?

DAVIS, WALTER  ARTHUR     WARD     
GRO Reference: 1875  J Quarter in SAINT OLAVE SOUTHWARK  Volume 01D  Page 271

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Re: Seeking help to locate birth of Arthur Davis
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 26 January 19 00:24 GMT (UK) »
Also:

Ellen Alice Davis, mmn Ward, birth reg Mar qtr 1879 Lambeth 1d 548.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Seeking help to locate birth of Arthur Davis
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 26 January 19 00:27 GMT (UK) »
Another?

Thomas Edward Davis, mmn Ward, Mar qtr 1880 Lambeth 1d 568.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)