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Re: I don't expect anyone will know the answer, but going to try anyway...
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 26 January 19 17:41 GMT (UK) »
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thank you for the interest - I need to clarify a few points from my badly worded post (apologies)

1. I have called my mother to ask for a copy of my fathers birth certificate but because they were not married i know it is a small certificate, with no information on. I think I need to apply for the PDF of the full copy

2. He was born in 1939 (his father, my grandfather was born 1911) so the princesses would have been quite small.

3. The correct location is Hertfordshire

4. The town was Hitchin

many thanks for the ideas so far! really appreciate your time

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« Reply #10 on: Saturday 26 January 19 17:46 GMT (UK) »
Sadly you won't get a PDF copy for 1939 birth 
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« Reply #11 on: Saturday 26 January 19 17:53 GMT (UK) »
Do you have his birth certificate, does it give an address in Hitchin

Hi were his parents married in 1938 and his mother an Annie E Newton, as I can see a birth in Hitchin mmn Newton
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Hi so the William A Brignall marriage in 1938 was not his father?
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Re: I don't expect anyone will know the answer, but going to try anyway...
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 26 January 19 17:59 GMT (UK) »
What are the timings, Keyboard? If the marriage was, lets say, Dec 1938 and the birth was January 1939 they could still be ostracised for the illegitimate pregnancy even if the baby was born after the marriage.

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Re: I don't expect anyone will know the answer, but going to try anyway...
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 26 January 19 18:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi , Yes my understanding is William Andrew (1911 - 1983) was my grandfather (and the father of the child born early 1939 in this context)

And Annie Elizabeth Newton is the right mother. William was 27 and Annie 16 at the time and they were outcast by the family due to the pregnancy

Their Marriage certificate  dec 1938 (in Surrey) shows william was a cowman at the time but he  had previously been a miner in yorkshire.

My father has told this story of the Big Estate and the princesses many times and i would love to find proof it is true. The 1939 register shows the address as Hitchin, rather than Kimpton.

Thank you for the suggestion of the historical society. I will contact them.

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« Reply #14 on: Saturday 26 January 19 18:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi again, but they were married, just, when he was born?
I would suggest ommiting the name of your father if he is still alive?
Who was the father of Annie Elizabeth Newton and his occupation, William A b 1911 is married/alone with two closed records  in Hitchin in 1939, where was Annie E or is she still alive?
OK it looks like Willam Andrew and Annie Elizabeth are in Tamworth West New South Wales in 1980!
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« Reply #15 on: Saturday 26 January 19 18:19 GMT (UK) »
26 May 1939 - Hertford Mercury and Reformer
The princesses visited their uncle and aunt (Bowes-Lyon) at St Pauls Walden Bury and attended morning service at the church - The king and queen were in Canada at the time.  This is article is approx 60 lines long
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« Reply #16 on: Saturday 26 January 19 22:55 GMT (UK) »
The Queen  Mother was Scottish,her parents being The  Earl  and Countess of  zStrathmore.
The Duke of York ( later zKing George VI) married Lady Elizabeth Bowes Lyon in April 1924.
I think their home was Glamis Castle.
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« Reply #17 on: Saturday 26 January 19 23:56 GMT (UK) »
The estate at St Paul Walden Bury has been in the Bowes -Lyon family since the early 1700s .
The nearby pub is the Strathmore Arms.

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