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Re: Thomas Davies
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 30 January 19 14:53 GMT (UK) »
getting somewhere!

1871 Treorky Pitt Cottages, Ystradyfodwg RG10/5383 folio 98 pg 28
Ruth Jones head widow 40 kept by her sons b. Carmarthenshire, Pontyberem
William son 14 haulier in coal pit b. Merthyr
Thomas son 12 door boy b. Mon, Kendle
step has been added in front of son on both lines but possibly not in the same hand. I suspect ages of William & Thomas were put up a little as Thomas, at least, was probably too young to have been working underground.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Thomas Davies
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 30 January 19 15:58 GMT (UK) »
possible from 1861
11 River Row, Llangattock, RG19/4218 folio 43 pg 35
William Davies head mar 36 coal miner b. Mon, Ebbw Vale
Ruth wife 32 b. Carms, Llangyndeyrn
Edward son 16 coal miner b. Mon, Sirhowy
William son 2 b. Glam, Merthyr
Isaiah brother 60 coal miner b. Breconshire, Beaufort

possible birth regs
Thomas Davies june qtr 1861 Crickhowell vol 11b pg 129 mmn Jones
Thomas Davies sept qtr 1861 Crickhowell vol 11b pg 118 mmn Jones

Marriage in the parish church of Ystradyfodwg 25 Dec 1869 for James Jones 70 widower, overman, father John, farmer and Ruth Davies 41, widow, father Edward Jones, collier.
Death reg for James Jones age 70 sept qtr 1870 Pontypridd vol 11a pg 185

Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Thomas Davies
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 30 January 19 18:34 GMT (UK) »
same family in 1851
Penydarren, Merthyr Tydfil HO107/2459 folio 383 pg 5
William Davis head mar 29 miner b. Mon, Bedwellty
Ruth wife 24 b. Carmarthen
Edward son 6 b. Bedwellty
Daniel son 2 b. Bedwellty
+ 3 lodgers

Possible marriage
Ruth Jones sept qtr 1843 Merthyr Tydfil vol 26 pg 501 with William Davies on the same page
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Thomas Davies
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 30 January 19 19:39 GMT (UK) »
As I said earlier Osprey,
Awesome.
I have to digest all of that now, wow.


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Re: Thomas Davies
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 06 March 19 14:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi Osprey, I now have a birth record for Thomas Davies, 30 Aug 1861.
Parents William and Ruth (formerly Jones) of River Row, Beaufort.
That looks good to me, thanks again.

At the marriage of Ruth Davies, (father Edward Jones) and James Jones in 1869, it shows his father as John Thomas. I wondered if you have any thoughts on that?

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Re: Thomas Davies
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 06 March 19 19:44 GMT (UK) »
as James Jones doesn't appear on the census with the family, he was married to Ruth for a very short time, I have no idea where he was born so tracing his birth is nigh on impossible. It could be that he was illegitimate or he came from an area where patronymics were still in use and his surname had changed from Johns.

Guesswork I'm sorry...

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Thomas Davies
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 06 March 19 20:09 GMT (UK) »
Ok, thanks Osprey,
I have a possible death for James Jones age 70, as 1870 Q3 v11a p185, Pontypridd.

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Re: Thomas Davies
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 06 March 19 20:22 GMT (UK) »
yes, that's the one I gave you in reply no. 10.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Thomas Davies
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 07 March 19 08:58 GMT (UK) »
Oh yes, sorry, and many thanks.