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Offline stanmapstone

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Re: Can't make out birthplace
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 29 January 19 13:29 GMT (UK) »
"Belfast British Colonies Ireland" was he a Catholic and Irish Nationalist? He appears to be making a political point.

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Re: Can't make out birthplace
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 29 January 19 13:29 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for your replies, I'm still of a mind to think it's Belfast, but can't see why it might have British Colonies.  I don't know if he was Catholic, but if I have the right people his son John my grt grt grandfather was married in the Parish Church in Bolton, which isn't Catholic.
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Re: Can't make out birthplace
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 29 January 19 13:37 GMT (UK) »
From the Dublin Evening Mail - Monday 21 June 1886
Mapstone, Mapston.
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Re: Can't make out birthplace
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 29 January 19 13:40 GMT (UK) »
stanmapstone. That is interesting I'd love to read the whole of that, unfortunately I don't have a sub to the newspaper archive.
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Re: Can't make out birthplace
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 29 January 19 13:46 GMT (UK) »
I don't know if he was Catholic, but if I have the right people his son John my grt grt grandfather was married in the Parish Church in Bolton, which isn't Catholic.
I have Irish Catholic ancestors who came to England in the 1810/20s who were married in Catholic churches in London but whose children & further descendants went on to marry & have children baptised in Protestant churches.

Seeking: baptism Philip Murray 1813 nr Chatham Kent, death Ralph James Dunn b 1808 1861 - 1868 in Newington 1861
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Nova Scotia [Halifax, Pictou]: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Can't make out birthplace
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 29 January 19 14:08 GMT (UK) »
From a history of Belfast. Until the late 16th century most of the land surrounding Belfast was still in the hands of the O'Neill clan.
At least he would be in the right place..
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Re: Can't make out birthplace
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 29 January 19 18:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I think I've found him and his wife in the 1851 census. But look at Margaret Con who is a lodger, I think for her birthplace it says Van Diemen's Land - British Subject. A long way from Tasmania to Bolton Lancs.
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Re: Can't make out birthplace
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 29 January 19 19:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I think I've found him and his wife in the 1851 census. But look at Margaret Con who is a lodger, I think for her birthplace it says Van Diemen's Land - British Subject. A long way from Tasmania to Bolton Lancs.

That would mean she is British by virtue of her parents citizenship (namely her father) but she herself was not born in Britain.

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Re: Can't make out birthplace
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 29 January 19 20:17 GMT (UK) »
Well it has possibly got you a bit further forward with the inclusion of Belfast than the ubiquitous 'Ireland' :)