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Robert Henry Royal Navy Ww1- survivor of shipwreck?
« on: Sunday 03 February 19 22:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi wonder if anyone can help.
Rumour has it in our family history that one of our ancestors died in asylum after trauma caused by being involved in a shipwreck in WW1.
I havenít been able to find anything to corroborate this but would love some help in doing so. The name was Robert Henry born in Belfast, married Caroline Hall in the 30ís. He apparently was traumatised from being the survivor of a shipwreck during the First World War, would love to know if further details can be found?
Many thanks in advance for any assistance
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Re: Robert Henry Royal Navy Ww1- survivor of shipwreck?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 04 February 19 00:22 GMT (UK) »
Would he be Frederick Robert McDonald HENRY. Dob 4 July 1900

If so his naval record is on FindMyPast.   You would have to go through the ships listed to see what happened to them , as it is just a list of ships and dates.

This data set. British Royal Navy Seamen 1899-1924

However, it may not be him? As only turned 18 towards end of war so any wreck would be post war.

There are other naval lists on FindMyPast but some you have to browse.
currently concentrating on NUTCHER & MARSHALL families, Hampshire.
and family of Thomas ANDERSON a Tailor of Perth, Scotland

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Re: Robert Henry Royal Navy Ww1- survivor of shipwreck?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 04 February 19 09:02 GMT (UK) »
hi
Royal Marines records
There is a Robert Elliot Henry born 29th June 1894 Belfast
Sister Aileen and mother Mrs E? Murray (though both names hard to read)
List of ships including
Hilary   1 Jan 1917 - 29 March 1917  Ship sunk

This Robert sailed in ships after the above sinking.

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Sinnock/Sinnicks...Brighton,Greenwich.
Clements,Coles,Mc Donagh,Rock

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Re: Robert Henry Royal Navy Ww1- survivor of shipwreck?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 04 February 19 10:20 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks indeed to both of you for giving your time generously to search these records!

Cathy, that is definitely him. Can I ask where you found this info? Thank you so much! Now we have the name of the ship! Great progress, thanks again
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Re: Robert Henry Royal Navy Ww1- survivor of shipwreck?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 04 February 19 10:44 GMT (UK) »

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Re: Robert Henry Royal Navy Ww1- survivor of shipwreck?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 04 February 19 11:08 GMT (UK) »
The date of the sinking was 29 May 1917 (badly written on his record) and he was on the vessel from December 1914.

 A goldmine of information on the excellent Naval History site for HMS Hilary here including its voyages and logs

 https://www.naval-history.net/OWShips-WW1-08-HMS_Hilary.htm

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Re: Robert Henry Royal Navy Ww1- survivor of shipwreck?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 04 February 19 12:16 GMT (UK) »
Wow thank you MaxD!!! Great info. It’s particulary interesting that the crew witnessed the sea serpent days before the ship’s demise... and my dad is positive that family legend is that Robert Henry was completely traumatised from his experience on that ship. Probably what we now know to be PTSD.
Sad, but great to have the details now.
Revenge of the Sea Serpent maybe??!!
Again, many thanks!
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Re: Robert Henry Royal Navy Ww1- survivor of shipwreck?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 04 February 19 17:28 GMT (UK) »
A couple of entries on his record may relate to his possible PTSD.

First of all he was invalided out of the service in December 1919 rather than simply ending his service time expired.

Second he appears to have been discharged from the Kalakara Naval Hospital in Malta, that can be seen very faintly at the end on the list of vessels.  There is the note "see 3949/19" which is obviously a reference to some other document probably totally unfindable now!

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Re: Robert Henry Royal Navy Ww1- survivor of shipwreck?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 04 February 19 19:44 GMT (UK) »
Wow! Excellent information thank you!!

We had no idea he spent time in a military hospital in Malta. I will try & find his death certificate to see if it gives more info. He did marry and had one son. We believe his son was very young when he died.

Great info thank you

MAGEE (Dungannon Tyrone to Shankill Belfast, to Whitehouse Co Antrim,) HALL (Lisnaskea, Fermanagh to Yan Yean, Melbourne Australia) McIVOR (Whitehouse, Co Antrim), McCULLOUGH (Markethill, Armagh), DEMPSTER (Ballymena, Co Antrim to Belfast), CUMMING (Glasgow), EVANS (Llandysill, Montgomeryshire to Belfast), NEVIN/ NEVINS (Ballynahinch, Co Down to Belfast), EMMS (Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey), HURREY (Yan Yean, Whittlesea, Melbourne), FINLAY- Jane, of Co Down, m James McIvor 1867. HOBSON Tyrone